Pointless first patrol ..?

gevers1 · 02-04-09, 06:29 AM

So, having learned the hard lesson of not sailing through the English Channel after War has broken out, I'm just starting out on my 2nd 'first' Patrol, if you know what I mean.

As I always start my career in 1939, I find that the first patrol is always completely pointless - war has not broken out and everyone is neutral (well, green on the map), so there's nothing (i.e. not allowed) to sink. Accordingly, I cruise to my assigned sector, sail around for a day or so and head home again. All very dull ..

So, here's the thing -

1/ is there a way to start later in 1939 other than august and so avoid that pointless first patrol?
2/ will I be attacked if spotted by a 'neutral' warship?

thanks
/s

sturmer · 02-04-09, 06:49 AM

1) well i would suggest that you download SH3Commander with its files, this program allows you to set up a carreer with the options activated at your choice.
so if you want to start in september of 1939, well you just choose that date and start.

2) if the war with england or poland hasnt broke out yet, you can just sail past by the warship without the fear that it will attack. from the moment the war breaks out with poland their warships will attack and some days later englandwill declare war and their vessels become hostile.

grtz sturmer

gevers1 · 02-04-09, 07:11 AM

Thanks Sturmer, I found a similar thread about 5 pages from here!

I don't have SH3 Commander just yet, so for now I'll just do some training runs (as the other thread suggests). For the craic, I'm gonna find me a nice destroyer, sail up to it (on the surface!) and see what happens; if it sinks me, I'll be back to get ye :-)

I'm also going to practice sinking those patrol ships in the english channel - the swines sunk me last time out.

s/

sturmer · 02-04-09, 07:20 AM

thats a great idea of those practice ships, i think they are hostile no matter what.
but im pretty sure (about 90%

) that noone will attack you before 04:45 of september the 1st (invasion of poland). after that i would dive for any warship that isnt an axis related country

Freiwillige · 02-04-09, 07:47 AM

IN GWX you start August 1st. Go out and do a shakedown cruise for 4 days then return to port. When you next leave port it will be August 28th and will give you enough time to go wherever before the war starts. The idea behind this is to give your crew 1 patrol worth of experiance.

bigboywooly · 02-04-09, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

IN GWX you start August 1st. Go out and do a shakedown cruise for 4 days then return to port. When you next leave port it will be August 28th and will give you enough time to go wherever before the war starts. The idea behind this is to give your crew 1 patrol worth of experiance.

Also removes the chance of getting no renown on first patrol - stock SH3 bug
And means you can be at your grid position as was historical

There is no way to start at any date other than the first of the month so this provides a good workaround

02-04-09, 06:29 AM	#1
gevers1 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 13 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Pointless first patrol ..? So, having learned the hard lesson of not sailing through the English Channel after War has broken out, I'm just starting out on my 2nd 'first' Patrol, if you know what I mean. As I always start my career in 1939, I find that the first patrol is always completely pointless - war has not broken out and everyone is neutral (well, green on the map), so there's nothing (i.e. not allowed) to sink. Accordingly, I cruise to my assigned sector, sail around for a day or so and head home again. All very dull .. So, here's the thing - 1/ is there a way to start later in 1939 other than august and so avoid that pointless first patrol? 2/ will I be attacked if spotted by a 'neutral' warship? thanks /s

02-04-09, 06:49 AM	#2
sturmer Navy Dude Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 178 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	1) well i would suggest that you download SH3Commander with its files, this program allows you to set up a carreer with the options activated at your choice. so if you want to start in september of 1939, well you just choose that date and start. 2) if the war with england or poland hasnt broke out yet, you can just sail past by the warship without the fear that it will attack. from the moment the war breaks out with poland their warships will attack and some days later englandwill declare war and their vessels become hostile. grtz sturmer __________________ "One Torpedo . . . one Ship" - Otto Kretschmer

02-04-09, 07:20 AM	#4
sturmer Navy Dude Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 178 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	thats a great idea of those practice ships, i think they are hostile no matter what. but im pretty sure (about 90% ) that noone will attack you before 04:45 of september the 1st (invasion of poland). after that i would dive for any warship that isnt an axis related country __________________ "One Torpedo . . . one Ship" - Otto Kretschmer

02-04-09, 07:11 AM	#3
gevers1 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 13 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Thanks Sturmer, I found a similar thread about 5 pages from here! I don't have SH3 Commander just yet, so for now I'll just do some training runs (as the other thread suggests). For the craic, I'm gonna find me a nice destroyer, sail up to it (on the surface!) and see what happens; if it sinks me, I'll be back to get ye :-) I'm also going to practice sinking those patrol ships in the english channel - the swines sunk me last time out. s/

02-04-09, 07:47 AM	#5
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	IN GWX you start August 1st. Go out and do a shakedown cruise for 4 days then return to port. When you next leave port it will be August 28th and will give you enough time to go wherever before the war starts. The idea behind this is to give your crew 1 patrol worth of experiance.