About time, but better later than never (Border Patrol Agents sentences commuted)

Thomen · 01-19-09, 06:56 PM

Sooner, of course would have been better

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...patrol-agents/

Stealth Hunter · 01-19-09, 06:58 PM

What a stupid thing to be put in prison for. Shows how much amnesty our government is willing to show for illegal Mexicans, even if they're drug runners.

Our political values are so backwards that it's painful.

baggygreen · 01-19-09, 07:11 PM

SH, I don't always agree with you, but on this one i do

Seems as tho both the US and Aus legal systems favour the criminal's rights over the "victim's", for want of a better word in this instance

SteamWake · 01-19-09, 07:26 PM

Im always amused when the media brands these two as 'accused of a shooting'. All they did was shoot him in the ass.

Probably one of the best moves Bush has done while in office.

August · 01-19-09, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Im always amused when the media brands these two as 'accused of a shooting'. All they did was shoot him in the ass.

They did a little more than that, including trying to cover up the crime.

Stealth Hunter · 01-19-09, 10:30 PM

Should we care? The guy they shot was a drug runner illegally crossing the border from Mexico...

Zachstar · 01-19-09, 10:41 PM

For trying to cover it up they deserve far longer but indeed it was way too long.

I could care less about a drug runner being shot. What I do care about is the agents being responsible and accountable. Because if they don't the bleeding hearts get more ammo to tear the defense of the border to shreds.

Aramike · 01-20-09, 12:54 AM

Screw this noise. They should have been pardoned ... free and clear.

Their only crime was capping the guy in the ass instead of the head.

Zachstar · 01-20-09, 01:26 AM

That has nothing to do with it compared to trying to sweep it.

That can't be tolerated PERIOD. While a decade for doing so is extreme. There is no reason to get off scot free for such actions.

Border Patrol agents have enough to worry about before bozos start getting accountability departments attention.

SteamWake · 01-21-09, 11:48 AM

Here is a small taste of what these guys are dealing with...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481084,00.html

AVGWarhawk · 01-21-09, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

Screw this noise. They should have been pardoned ... free and clear.

Their only crime was capping the guy in the ass instead of the head.

Totally agree. Cover up or not, illegal, in the USA, pushing drugs that will end up in kids hands...should have popped him twice in the head.

Tchocky · 01-21-09, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Totally agree. Cover up or not, illegal, in the USA, pushing drugs that will end up in kids hands...should have popped him twice in the head.

That's really disturbing. Cops can break the law anytime they like? Shoot whoever they want?

Shooting an unarmed man who is running away from you is a crime. A serious one. Does the fact that this person was a suspected criminal at the time make a difference?

Captain Vlad · 01-21-09, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Shooting an unarmed man who is running away from you is a crime.

Actually, it isn't always. Shooting an unarmed suspect, even if fleeing, is quite reasonably permitted if the police office has strong reason to believe that, by letting the suspect escape, he'll inflict serious harm on another.

IE: If the guy you just arrested on that serial murder case tries to run, it's okay to shoot him.

Zachstar · 01-21-09, 10:10 PM

No what is disturbing here is the lack of attention being given to the cover up.

The shooting has NOTHING to do with it. The cover up has everything to do with it.

What do you think accounts for a serious lack of respect for those who protect the border? Shootings? Nobody gives a hell about that. But when people feel that agents can get away from hiding what they have done they panic and feel the .gov is out to get them and hide it. Conspiracy theories fly and respect for the border patrol drops.

For petes sakes try to be rational if you are going to be deep right wing.

Jimbuna · 01-22-09, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Here is a small taste of what these guys are dealing with...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481084,00.html

Charming I must say

01-19-09, 06:56 PM	#1
Thomen Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	About time, but better later than never (Border Patrol Agents sentences commuted) Sooner, of course would have been better http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...patrol-agents/

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Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	For trying to cover it up they deserve far longer but indeed it was way too long. I could care less about a drug runner being shot. What I do care about is the agents being responsible and accountable. Because if they don't the bleeding hearts get more ammo to tear the defense of the border to shreds. __________________

01-20-09, 01:26 AM	#9
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	That has nothing to do with it compared to trying to sweep it. That can't be tolerated PERIOD. While a decade for doing so is extreme. There is no reason to get off scot free for such actions. Border Patrol agents have enough to worry about before bozos start getting accountability departments attention. __________________

01-21-09, 10:10 PM	#14
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	No what is disturbing here is the lack of attention being given to the cover up. The shooting has NOTHING to do with it. The cover up has everything to do with it. What do you think accounts for a serious lack of respect for those who protect the border? Shootings? Nobody gives a hell about that. But when people feel that agents can get away from hiding what they have done they panic and feel the .gov is out to get them and hide it. Conspiracy theories fly and respect for the border patrol drops. For petes sakes try to be rational if you are going to be deep right wing. __________________

01-19-09, 06:58 PM	#2
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	What a stupid thing to be put in prison for. Shows how much amnesty our government is willing to show for illegal Mexicans, even if they're drug runners. Our political values are so backwards that it's painful.

01-19-09, 07:11 PM	#3
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	SH, I don't always agree with you, but on this one i do Seems as tho both the US and Aus legal systems favour the criminal's rights over the "victim's", for want of a better word in this instance

01-19-09, 07:26 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Im always amused when the media brands these two as 'accused of a shooting'. All they did was shoot him in the ass. Probably one of the best moves Bush has done while in office.

01-19-09, 10:30 PM	#6
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Should we care? The guy they shot was a drug runner illegally crossing the border from Mexico...

01-20-09, 12:54 AM	#8
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Screw this noise. They should have been pardoned ... free and clear. Their only crime was capping the guy in the ass instead of the head.

01-21-09, 11:48 AM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Here is a small taste of what these guys are dealing with... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481084,00.html