What do you do with them neutrals?

BasilY · 01-17-09, 01:22 PM

I have gotten wind on this forum that some uboatman are attacking neutral ships diliberately

, even before the war is even started. I don't know if I am the only one who find this just a bit disturbing.

For myself, I do my upmost to prevent sinking neutral ships. Even when in a convoy, I will not attack any ship possitively IDed as neutral. (them neutrals are really abusing the previlage of being neutrals

). It's not un-common for me to spend hours chasing a sound contact only to discover they are neutral when I got into perfect firing position.

While I have sunk a number of neutral ships. I firmly believe in each case the victim is at fault, (either they are in a convoy protected by RN that I have to attack at long range) or they didn't illuminate at night.

But this is a game. So to each their own...

Jimbuna · 01-17-09, 02:22 PM

I always leave them well alone

kranz · 01-17-09, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I always leave them well alone

then you are not a real pirate and make Fuhrer sad

nikbear · 01-17-09, 02:55 PM

I'm still not to sure what to do with Neutrals who are not lit and heading to the UK,In the Bdu message's you get sent during the start of the war it tells you they are to be sunk,but the messages are just for immersion right:hmm:?If you do that ingame you lose renown,correct?:hmm:So what to do?

Jimbuna · 01-17-09, 02:59 PM

It depends on how much value you place on renown

BasilY · 01-17-09, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikbear

I'm still not to sure what to do with Neutrals who are not lit and heading to the UK,In the Bdu message's you get sent during the start of the war it tells you they are to be sunk,but the messages are just for immersion right:hmm:?If you do that ingame you lose renown,correct?:hmm:So what to do?

During the real war, having a neutral flag doesn't necessarily give a ship protection. Here are some (only the one I know off) of the exceptions,

If said neutral ship is in a belligerent convoy;
If they refuse to stop for inspection by a belligerent warship;
If contraband material are found upon inspections.

I SH3, however, neutral is neutral, even when their decks are loaded with tanks headed to England. (I have seen that too)

Erich dem Roten · 01-17-09, 05:15 PM

I always leave them alone on the open sea or in convoys; I try to follow the restrictions given as real captains had to. However, in my port raiding days, I would sometimes make a decision that led me to attacking a neutral, e.g. American troop transports docked in British ports. Can't fool me :p

Weiss Pinguin · 01-17-09, 05:19 PM

I usually leave them alone. My renown is going into my Type IX fund, so every little bit I save helps

bigboywooly · 01-17-09, 07:11 PM

I altered the Basic cfg

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=0
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=0
CompletedPatrol=0
NEUTRAL=0 <--------------
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10

Now I dont get anything for sinking neutrals but dont take a renown hit either
Waste of torpedos if you gonna get nothing for sinking them
Only made the changes as neutrals in convoys are fair game and easy to make a mistake in the heat of battle
Lit ones and singles I leave well alone

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 01-18-09, 02:19 AM

I respect the laws of neutrality, unless its some dumb captian that sails down the English coast without lights better pray that I don't find it!! Or less BOOM!!!!

Wilhelm Keppler · 01-18-09, 02:25 AM

I am gentleman and let them peace:hmm: :rotfl:

Torp III · 01-18-09, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

I altered the Basic cfg

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=0
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=0
CompletedPatrol=0
NEUTRAL=0 <--------------
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10

Now I dont get anything for sinking neutrals but dont take a renown hit either
Waste of torpedos if you gonna get nothing for sinking them
Only made the changes as neutrals in convoys are fair game and easy to make a mistake in the heat of battle
Lit ones and singles I leave well alone

I Agree 100%

peterloo · 01-18-09, 05:44 AM

I play this realistically, i.e. I don't sink them as long as they don't report my position or fire at me

01-18-09, 05:54 AM

Neutral is neutral. I'm always leting them go.
Exclusions can be made if neutrals are sailing in enemy escorted convoys. And attacked by mistake.

U-104 · 01-18-09, 06:29 AM

in a convoy dead!

on their own let go.

View Poll Results: How you deal with neutral vessals?
Sink them all!	3	4.17%
Sink them all! But only during war. (09/39-05-45)	4	5.56%
everything but chrismas trees	1	1.39%
Anything but those from my favorite nation (i.e. Greek, insert your own)	1	1.39%
Will attacked unless pissitively excluded.	1	1.39%
Will ID if possible, but all bet's off if visibility is bad	11	15.28%
Only ships possitively IDed or in allied convoy	22	30.56%
Only ships possitively IDed	29	40.28%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

01-17-09, 01:22 PM	#1
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	What do you do with them neutrals? I have gotten wind on this forum that some uboatman are attacking neutral ships diliberately, even before the war is even started. I don't know if I am the only one who find this just a bit disturbing. For myself, I do my upmost to prevent sinking neutral ships. Even when in a convoy, I will not attack any ship possitively IDed as neutral. (them neutrals are really abusing the previlage of being neutrals). It's not un-common for me to spend hours chasing a sound contact only to discover they are neutral when I got into perfect firing position. While I have sunk a number of neutral ships. I firmly believe in each case the victim is at fault, (either they are in a convoy protected by RN that I have to attack at long range) or they didn't illuminate at night. But this is a game. So to each their own...

01-17-09, 02:22 PM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I always leave them well alone __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-17-09, 02:55 PM	#4
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I'm still not to sure what to do with Neutrals who are not lit and heading to the UK,In the Bdu message's you get sent during the start of the war it tells you they are to be sunk,but the messages are just for immersion right:hmm:?If you do that ingame you lose renown,correct?:hmm:So what to do? __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-17-09, 02:59 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It depends on how much value you place on renown __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-17-09, 05:15 PM	#7
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I always leave them alone on the open sea or in convoys; I try to follow the restrictions given as real captains had to. However, in my port raiding days, I would sometimes make a decision that led me to attacking a neutral, e.g. American troop transports docked in British ports. Can't fool me :p __________________

01-17-09, 05:19 PM	#8
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I usually leave them alone. My renown is going into my Type IX fund, so every little bit I save helps __________________

01-17-09, 07:11 PM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I altered the Basic cfg [RENOWN] RenownReachGridObjCompleted=0 RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=0 CompletedPatrol=0 NEUTRAL=0 <-------------- ALLIED=1 AXIS=-10 Now I dont get anything for sinking neutrals but dont take a renown hit either Waste of torpedos if you gonna get nothing for sinking them Only made the changes as neutrals in convoys are fair game and easy to make a mistake in the heat of battle Lit ones and singles I leave well alone __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-18-09, 02:19 AM	#10
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I respect the laws of neutrality, unless its some dumb captian that sails down the English coast without lights better pray that I don't find it!! Or less BOOM!!!! __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

01-18-09, 02:25 AM	#11
Wilhelm Keppler Watch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am gentleman and let them peace:hmm: :rotfl: __________________

01-18-09, 05:44 AM	#13
peterloo Commander Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 462 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I play this realistically, i.e. I don't sink them as long as they don't report my position or fire at me __________________ Romeo is here, but where is Juliet? The 中国水兵 (Chinese Sailor) in subsim

01-18-09, 05:54 AM	#14
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Neutral is neutral. I'm always leting them go. Exclusions can be made if neutrals are sailing in enemy escorted convoys. And attacked by mistake.

01-18-09, 06:29 AM	#15
U-104 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 797 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	in a convoy dead! on their own let go. __________________ My heart is steadfast, O God. I will sing and make music with all my soul. Ps. 108:1 Survival of the fittest does not explain arrival of the fittest. we live in a single spoken sentence.. "God said, let there be"