Sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff on TV

bigboywooly · 12-27-08, 04:59 AM

For those in the UK there is a documentary on the sinking of the liner Gustloff in Jan 45

Already started on Discovery but will start again at 11am on Discovery +1

mr chris · 12-27-08, 09:22 AM

Hmm how i miss Sky

The wife's Grandmother just missed being on the Gustloff.
She was born and brought up in Konigsberg.
She was telling me last year how as a 6 year old she was trekking through the snow fleeing the Russians with her family. While the Russian planes staffed the people as they fled.
Fortunately for her they arrived a few hours after the Gustloff had sailed.

bigboywooly · 12-27-08, 09:52 AM

Lucky indeed
Biggest maritime disaster that hardly anyone knows about

Schroeder · 12-27-08, 10:15 AM

Yep, even here in Germany there aren't many people who know about it.

mengle · 12-27-08, 10:21 AM

i have seen it on discovery , dident know that it was such a disaster so many dead

bigboywooly · 12-27-08, 10:39 AM

I only knew from scripting AOTD_Maxs Gustloff liner and doing some research
I dont think the Germans were too keen on releasing details of the sinking so kept it hush hush

Mind you you cant really blame the Russian uboat Kpt
If she sailed across my bows I would have let some eels go too
Wonder if he stayed long enough to see all the passengers flooding to top deck trying to get off ?

Probably couldnt believe his luck spotting it lit up and un missable
Mind you if he did hang around he would have had a chance at the Hipper - who declined to lend a hand picking up survivors and sent its torpedoboot escort to help while sailing merrily back to Kiel, though it did have another 1500 refugees onboard too

Sad story indeed that one

Red Heat · 12-27-08, 12:20 PM

Some more information about the Sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KdF_Ship_Wilhelm_Gustloff

http://www.wilhelmgustloff.com/sinking.htm

piri_reis · 12-27-08, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Mind you you cant really blame the Russian uboat Kpt
If she sailed across my bows I would have let some eels go too
Wonder if he stayed long enough to see all the passengers flooding to top deck trying to get off ?

Probably couldnt believe his luck spotting it lit up and un missable
Mind you if he did hang around he would have had a chance at the Hipper - who declined to lend a hand picking up survivors and sent its torpedoboot escort to help while sailing merrily back to Kiel, though it did have another 1500 refugees onboard too

Sad story indeed that one

I just watched the "Sea Hunters" episode where they dive to the wreck, under 42m of water in the Gulf of Gdansk, Poland. The show gives great insight to the tragedy. The captain of the torpedo boat escort that comes to the rescue, is also interviewed, where he says while helping the survivors the lookouts call two torpedo wakes, which forces him to order leaving the area. So the submarine might've fired again..
After the war the wreck was cut to pieces and blown apart by the Soviet Gov., searching for treasures stolen from Russia. Which were thought to be carried by the Gustloff.

bigboywooly · 12-28-08, 04:30 AM

Yeah on the Discovery show they dived the wreck and said pretty much the same thing

Though you would have thought would have been classed as a war grave or something as all off duty crew were sealed in bow when flood doors shut
Though bulk of crew were civilian it was a KM ship

Obviously nothing found by the Soviets or a big deal would have been made over a find

kranz · 12-28-08, 05:22 AM

has anyone seen Die Gustloff made by ZDF Channel(german tv) a few months ago? There was no cinema premiere, only a tv one. I'm also looking for any dl sources-dunno if it is legal etc..so maybe a pm to avoid posting it here, but I guess if recording sth from tv may be legal this is also.

check this btw http://gustloff.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/...131083,00.html

bigboywooly · 12-28-08, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz

has anyone seen Die Gustloff made by ZDF Channel(german tv) a few months ago? There was no cinema premiere, only a tv one. I'm also looking for any dl sources-dunno if it is legal etc..so maybe a pm to avoid posting it here, but I guess if recording sth from tv may be legal this is also.

check this btw http://gustloff.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/...131083,00.html

Thanx for that
Just watching Hafen der Hoffnung on that site now

Jimbuna · 12-28-08, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz

has anyone seen Die Gustloff made by ZDF Channel(german tv) a few months ago? There was no cinema premiere, only a tv one. I'm also looking for any dl sources-dunno if it is legal etc..so maybe a pm to avoid posting it here, but I guess if recording sth from tv may be legal this is also.

check this btw http://gustloff.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/...131083,00.html

PODZIĘKOWANIE kranz....great link

jaxa · 12-28-08, 09:30 AM

Not only "Wilhelm Gustloff" was sunk there at the same time, "Steuben" and "Goya" too. It's not common known part of history, everybody know about "Titanic", but "Gustloff", "Steuben" and "Goya" are uknown for many people, even in Germany (on "Gustloff" died 9600 men, on "Goya" 6800 and on "Steuben" 3350 - on "Titanic" 1500).
"Gustloff" is better known of them because this ship probably transport Amber Room from Konigsberg to Germany.

This time these ships are protected by international and Polish law as war cemetaries, diving there is forbidden.

Red Heat · 12-28-08, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz

has anyone seen Die Gustloff made by ZDF Channel(german tv) a few months ago? There was no cinema premiere, only a tv one. I'm also looking for any dl sources-dunno if it is legal etc..so maybe a pm to avoid posting it here, but I guess if recording sth from tv may be legal this is also.

check this btw http://gustloff.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/...131083,00.html

Great link!

Jimbuna · 12-28-08, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

Not only "Wilhelm Gustloff" was sunk there at the same time, "Steuben" and "Goya" too. It's not common known part of history, everybody know about "Titanic", but "Gustloff", "Steuben" and "Goya" are uknown for many people, even in Germany (on "Gustloff" died 9600 men, on "Goya" 6800 and on "Steuben" 3350 - on "Titanic" 1500).
"Gustloff" is better known of them because this ship probably transport Amber Room from Konigsberg to Germany.

This time these ships are protected by international and Polish law as war cemetaries, diving there is forbidden.

The Amber Room...one of WWII's unsolved mysteries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doublei...ries/amber.htm

http://www.geo.uw.edu.pl/HOBBY/AMBER/amberroom.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5174876/

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaeoXWpwmDQ

12-27-08, 04:59 AM	#1
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff on TV For those in the UK there is a documentary on the sinking of the liner Gustloff in Jan 45 Already started on Discovery but will start again at 11am on Discovery +1 __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

12-27-08, 09:22 AM	#2
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Hmm how i miss Sky The wife's Grandmother just missed being on the Gustloff. She was born and brought up in Konigsberg. She was telling me last year how as a 6 year old she was trekking through the snow fleeing the Russians with her family. While the Russian planes staffed the people as they fled. Fortunately for her they arrived a few hours after the Gustloff had sailed. __________________ Last edited by mr chris; 12-27-08 at 09:23 AM.

12-27-08, 09:52 AM	#3
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Lucky indeed Biggest maritime disaster that hardly anyone knows about __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

12-27-08, 10:15 AM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Yep, even here in Germany there aren't many people who know about it. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

12-27-08, 10:21 AM	#5
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12-27-08, 10:39 AM	#6
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I only knew from scripting AOTD_Maxs Gustloff liner and doing some research I dont think the Germans were too keen on releasing details of the sinking so kept it hush hush Mind you you cant really blame the Russian uboat Kpt If she sailed across my bows I would have let some eels go too Wonder if he stayed long enough to see all the passengers flooding to top deck trying to get off ? Probably couldnt believe his luck spotting it lit up and un missable Mind you if he did hang around he would have had a chance at the Hipper - who declined to lend a hand picking up survivors and sent its torpedoboot escort to help while sailing merrily back to Kiel, though it did have another 1500 refugees onboard too Sad story indeed that one __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

12-27-08, 12:20 PM	#7
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Some more information about the Sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KdF_Ship_Wilhelm_Gustloff http://www.wilhelmgustloff.com/sinking.htm __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

12-28-08, 04:30 AM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Yeah on the Discovery show they dived the wreck and said pretty much the same thing Though you would have thought would have been classed as a war grave or something as all off duty crew were sealed in bow when flood doors shut Though bulk of crew were civilian it was a KM ship Obviously nothing found by the Soviets or a big deal would have been made over a find __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

12-28-08, 05:22 AM	#10
kranz The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,430 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	has anyone seen Die Gustloff made by ZDF Channel(german tv) a few months ago? There was no cinema premiere, only a tv one. I'm also looking for any dl sources-dunno if it is legal etc..so maybe a pm to avoid posting it here, but I guess if recording sth from tv may be legal this is also. check this btw http://gustloff.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/...131083,00.html Last edited by kranz; 12-28-08 at 05:23 AM.

12-28-08, 09:30 AM	#13
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Not only "Wilhelm Gustloff" was sunk there at the same time, "Steuben" and "Goya" too. It's not common known part of history, everybody know about "Titanic", but "Gustloff", "Steuben" and "Goya" are uknown for many people, even in Germany (on "Gustloff" died 9600 men, on "Goya" 6800 and on "Steuben" 3350 - on "Titanic" 1500). "Gustloff" is better known of them because this ship probably transport Amber Room from Konigsberg to Germany. This time these ships are protected by international and Polish law as war cemetaries, diving there is forbidden. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS Last edited by jaxa; 12-28-08 at 09:31 AM.