[WIP] Enhanced funnel smoke revisited !!!

HanSolo78 · 12-20-08, 10:41 AM

Hi guys!

Since this mod has been really great I just thought it should be possible to develope it somehow and finish it.

All credits go to Albrecht Von Hessen
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134024

So.. for now I´ve done a few tweaks to AVH´s mod:

1. Added a 6th smoke class for small coastal vessels

2. changed the smoke of big war ships

3. changed the smoke of diesel ships

4. reworked the smoke of coal burner vessels a little bit

5. made the smoke wind affected

So...let me know if the smoke should be ok or if changes are still needed

Some pictures:

iambecomelife · 12-20-08, 11:33 AM

That's some beautiful looking smoke. In fact all of your screenshots are lovely - what atmospheric/water mods are you using?

When you finish your work I would like to try & apply it to my ships if you don't mind.

One more thing - Is there a way to enlarge the height of smoke for coal burning steamers? Sources say that their smoke plumes were absolutely gigantic.

iambecomelife · 12-20-08, 11:37 AM

oops - I just realized something else. Is there a way to create an invisible smoke plume? That would be useful for some of the small craft I have planned (motor boats, pinnaces, outrigger canoes...) No hurry, b/c I think I will be releasing them after my larger ships.

HanSolo78 · 12-20-08, 11:42 AM

Hi IABL!

That´s how water and atmosphere looks like in WAC3.0.

I also thought of your merchant fleet mod because it would be great to add the new smoke to your ships. But then it would be the best to know which ships are coal burners and which are diesel merchants.
I also adopted the new smoke to wac but also realized that it is somtimes difficult to make sure coal burner or diesel engine due to the funnel itself.

I think there is the possibility to rise the smoke for coal burning steamers but it might be a small conflic with the wind affected smoke.
I have to try!!

Do you have pics of ships with coal smoke plumes?

EDIT: Invisible smoke? Hm.. sure possible but.. if it´s not visible... :hmm: Don´t get the trick. ???
You also can delete the smoke node for these ships... then there is no smoke visible

A6Intruder · 12-20-08, 12:00 PM

Hi Han,
nice idea. I love the dark versions but the light versions for troop transports and battleships should be a liite less white and a litte more medium/dark grey.

Nice to see you working on WAC!

Kind regards

UberTorpedo · 12-20-08, 12:31 PM

HanSolo78

Looks very promising

. What does #5. made the smoke wind affected actually mean?
Will the smoke always blow the same direction or will it change with the SH3 weather patterns?

I'm really looking forward to the release

.

cheers

HanSolo78 · 12-20-08, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A6Intruder

HanSolo78
Hi Han,
nice idea. I love the dark versions but the light versions for troop transports and battleships should be a liite less white and a litte more medium/dark grey.
Nice to see you working on WAC!
Kind regards

Do you have some pics? It would be best to have some real life pictures.
Some small work for wac is always possible

greetings

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberTorpedo

HanSolo78

Looks very promising

. What does #5. made the smoke wind affected actually mean?
Will the smoke always blow the same direction or will it change with the SH3 weather patterns?

I'm really looking forward to the release

.

cheers

No.. in Sh3 it is only possible to blow in just one direction.. wind affection unfortunately is not possible.

But until you don´t get a weather report with wind direction and compare the smoke.. youn won´t get on this

I did it like Rubini did in his thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ighlight=smoke

greetings

mengle · 12-20-08, 01:44 PM

verry great work, that was missing in the game

A6Intruder · 12-20-08, 04:10 PM

[quote=HanSolo78]

Quote:

Originally Posted by A6Intruder

HanSolo78
Hi Han,
nice idea. I love the dark versions but the light versions for troop transports and battleships should be a liite less white and a litte more medium/dark grey.
Nice to see you working on WAC!
Kind regards

Do you have some pics? It would be best to have some real life pictures.
Some small work for wac is always possible

greetings

I only found one, of an british battleship Ramillies. Find it here:
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-05.htm
Last picture of this page.
Imo ist a little darker than shown above but I have to say that i would like to see (all) smoke darker.
I love it so see black smoke crossing the horizon.

Kind regards.

HanSolo78 · 12-20-08, 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=A6Intruder]

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Quote:

Originally Posted by A6Intruder

HanSolo78
Hi Han,
nice idea. I love the dark versions but the light versions for troop transports and battleships should be a liite less white and a litte more medium/dark grey.
Nice to see you working on WAC!
Kind regards

Do you have some pics? It would be best to have some real life pictures.
Some small work for wac is always possible

greetings

I only found one, of an british battleship Ramillies. Find it here:
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-05.htm
Last picture of this page.
Imo ist a little darker than shown above but I have to say that i would like to see (all) smoke darker.
I love it so see black smoke crossing the horizon.

Kind regards.

Hm.. in the other funnel smoke thread I found this picture of big warship smoke...

Has anybody more pictures/videos of warships?
More opinions and pictures would be nice.

Maybe I should have a look at youtube...

EDIT: just found this video at youtube... I think it is usefull... what do you think?

UberTorpedo · 12-20-08, 07:16 PM

HanSolo78

Would it be possible to some how randomize the direction of the smoke when you
start up SH3 each time? Perhaps through SH3 Commander?
I think I'd get distracted if I noticed it was always in one direction. (But it wouldn't be a game killer for me

.)

Can't wait to try it out :p. This mod has been needed for a long time

cheers

12-20-08, 08:22 PM

If you add a section in the
Randomised events.cfg?
I'd say they could be different.

I'm actually surprised more people don't
take advantage of this fantastic tool.

A6Intruder · 12-21-08, 02:38 AM

[quote=HanSolo78]

Quote:

Originally Posted by A6Intruder

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Quote:

Originally Posted by A6Intruder

HanSolo78
Hi Han,
nice idea. I love the dark versions but the light versions for troop transports and battleships should be a liite less white and a litte more medium/dark grey.
Nice to see you working on WAC!
Kind regards

Do you have some pics? It would be best to have some real life pictures.
Some small work for wac is always possible

greetings

I only found one, of an british battleship Ramillies. Find it here:
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-05.htm
Last picture of this page.
Imo ist a little darker than shown above but I have to say that i would like to see (all) smoke darker.
I love it so see black smoke crossing the horizon.

Kind regards.

Hm.. in the other funnel smoke thread I found this picture of big warship smoke...

Has anybody more pictures/videos of warships?
More opinions and pictures would be nice.

Maybe I should have a look at youtube...

EDIT: just found this video at youtube... I think it is usefull... what do you think?

Hi Han,
i am with you. This is quite usefull. The smoke is much darker than above. Do you not think so?

Kind regards

kiwikapitan · 12-21-08, 02:57 AM

Looking superb HanSolo.

It's the little things like this that make you appreciate this simulation. I'm gonna d/l your mod too. That sea looks almost real.

HanSolo78 · 12-21-08, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberTorpedo

HanSolo78

Would it be possible to some how randomize the direction of the smoke when you
start up SH3 each time? Perhaps through SH3 Commander?
I think I'd get distracted if I noticed it was always in one direction. (But it wouldn't be a game killer for me

.)

Can't wait to try it out :p. This mod has been needed for a long time

cheers

Might be possible like Privateer said.. but so far I am not familiar with SH3 Commander and adding ranomized events.
Maybe this should be a task for Sh3 Commander creator?

Today I reworked some smokes a little bit:

1. diesel smoke darker
2. war ship smoke darker
3. coal burner smoke rising higher

Have a look:

What do you think now?

12-20-08, 10:41 AM	#1
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	[WIP] Enhanced funnel smoke revisited !!! Hi guys! Since this mod has been really great I just thought it should be possible to develope it somehow and finish it. All credits go to Albrecht Von Hessen http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134024 So.. for now I´ve done a few tweaks to AVH´s mod: 1. Added a 6th smoke class for small coastal vessels 2. changed the smoke of big war ships 3. changed the smoke of diesel ships 4. reworked the smoke of coal burner vessels a little bit 5. made the smoke wind affected So...let me know if the smoke should be ok or if changes are still needed Some pictures: __________________

12-20-08, 11:33 AM	#2
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,705 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	That's some beautiful looking smoke. In fact all of your screenshots are lovely - what atmospheric/water mods are you using? When you finish your work I would like to try & apply it to my ships if you don't mind. One more thing - Is there a way to enlarge the height of smoke for coal burning steamers? Sources say that their smoke plumes were absolutely gigantic. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

12-20-08, 11:37 AM	#3
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,705 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	oops - I just realized something else. Is there a way to create an invisible smoke plume? That would be useful for some of the small craft I have planned (motor boats, pinnaces, outrigger canoes...) No hurry, b/c I think I will be releasing them after my larger ships. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

12-20-08, 11:42 AM	#4
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Hi IABL! That´s how water and atmosphere looks like in WAC3.0. I also thought of your merchant fleet mod because it would be great to add the new smoke to your ships. But then it would be the best to know which ships are coal burners and which are diesel merchants. I also adopted the new smoke to wac but also realized that it is somtimes difficult to make sure coal burner or diesel engine due to the funnel itself. I think there is the possibility to rise the smoke for coal burning steamers but it might be a small conflic with the wind affected smoke. I have to try!! Do you have pics of ships with coal smoke plumes? EDIT: Invisible smoke? Hm.. sure possible but.. if it´s not visible... :hmm: Don´t get the trick. ??? You also can delete the smoke node for these ships... then there is no smoke visible __________________ Last edited by HanSolo78; 12-20-08 at 11:49 AM.

12-20-08, 12:31 PM	#6
UberTorpedo Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 194 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	HanSolo78 Looks very promising . What does #5. made the smoke wind affected actually mean? Will the smoke always blow the same direction or will it change with the SH3 weather patterns? I'm really looking forward to the release . cheers __________________ Download Link for Mods and Other Goodies...

12-20-08, 12:00 PM	#5
A6Intruder Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 663 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Hi Han, nice idea. I love the dark versions but the light versions for troop transports and battleships should be a liite less white and a litte more medium/dark grey. Nice to see you working on WAC! Kind regards __________________ http://www.mediafire.com/UffzRohledder

12-20-08, 01:44 PM	#8
mengle Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium, mai 1940 Posts: 665 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	verry great work, that was missing in the game __________________ IMMER WEITER Gramophone songs http://www.filefront.com/16221983/Ra...gs_Part_I.rar/ http://www.filefront.com/16227547/Ra...s_Part_II.rar/ http://www.filefront.com/16227839/Ra..._Part_III.rar/ Last edited by mengle; 12-20-08 at 01:45 PM.

12-20-08, 07:16 PM	#11
UberTorpedo Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 194 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	HanSolo78 Would it be possible to some how randomize the direction of the smoke when you start up SH3 each time? Perhaps through SH3 Commander? I think I'd get distracted if I noticed it was always in one direction. (But it wouldn't be a game killer for me .) Can't wait to try it out :p. This mod has been needed for a long time cheers __________________ Download Link for Mods and Other Goodies...

12-20-08, 08:22 PM	#12
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you add a section in the Randomised events.cfg? I'd say they could be different. I'm actually surprised more people don't take advantage of this fantastic tool.

12-21-08, 02:57 AM	#14
kiwikapitan Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 108 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looking superb HanSolo. It's the little things like this that make you appreciate this simulation. I'm gonna d/l your mod too. That sea looks almost real. __________________ Proud GWX user! but currently on WAC holiday....