variation on CTD - Crash to reboot!

johnm · 11-09-08, 12:26 PM

I've recently built a new machine - ECS GeForce 6100PM-M2, Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2gb memory and nvidia 8600 with 1gb. Only because my old machine struggled with SH3/GWX.

After installing XP I had problems with sound drivers and eventually gave up and bought a USB sound thingy.

When running SH3/GW2.1 it loads fast, runs fine but whenever I close the program it displays a blue screen full of information for about 2 seconds then reboots the machine!

A few days ago it did the same trick but when the machine came back up again. it announced that the partition was unusable.

I am now unable to boot the machine into xp and it looks like I will have to completely re-install XP, SH3 & GW2.1. Naturally I'm not happy.

My problem is this -- do you think the problem is in SH3 or the hardware?

Sorry I can't give details of mods etc but I can't get into the machine at all.

nikbear · 11-09-08, 05:57 PM

you could try,start the computer,put your windows xp disc in drive then restart the computer and start pressing f8 continusly,and you should be given the option to boot straight from the disc,press enter.this should take you to the winXP instilation screen,where there is an option to repair windows,usually by pressing R then follow instructions....if that doesn't work then it could be a full reinstall,best of luck. If it does work, the pc will reboot and you should be able to log into windows. Providing you can do this, restart in safe mode and remove the game completely and reinstall it.. then reboot in normal mode, hope this is of some help.

johnm · 11-15-08, 05:27 PM

Thanks, just returned from holiday. Will try and report. Over and out!

badwolf · 11-15-08, 07:56 PM

Is the harddrive new, the partition message would make me re-partition, format and a complete re-installation. If that failed I'd get a new drive. I'd also put windows in its own partition, makes maintanance far easier.

johnno74 · 11-16-08, 12:19 AM

It sounds like a driver problem, or perhaps hardware. Its definitely not a SH3 problem, a bluescreen indicates a crash in a hardware driver, or the OS itself. The fact that this is reproduceable indicates its more likely drivers.

Unfortunately you've had the bad luck to get a bluescreen in the middle of something writing to your HD, and as a result something important got corrupted. This is extremely unusual.... Is your HD formatted as NTFS or FAT? NTFS is far, far more resistant to this sort of corruption.

If you get it going a good first step in diagnosing this is to go into my computer properties, startup and recovery, and untick the "automatically reboot" option under "system failure."

Then next time it happens, write down the stop error code (2 digit hex number) and the first number after this (6 or 8 digits)
you'll see something like "STOP 0x7c (0x00000123......."
its the first two sets of numbers that tell you the most. If it is a driver crash you often get the name of the driver somewhere down the bottom of the screen - look for a filename ending in .sys

Let us know how you go...

maddysad · 11-17-08, 06:42 AM

Hi
IMHO but I'm no expert

Your problem is probably Graphics card related
Blue screen reads Nv 4 (I think)
I have NV8600GS 512 and have 3GB memory XP and occassionally receive Blue Screen of Death when loading IL2 1946 which should require less effort from my card.SH3 runs great with everthing full on (just slows down in heated battles)
I have tried various drivers to no avail

Try reducing some of your settings a little AA, resolution, etc etc

Also consider Overheating as My purchase of a massive fan in a larger case helped immensely

Afraid I settle for "I need BETTER Graphic Card but can live with what I have at the moment"

Good luck

maddysad

11-09-08, 12:26 PM	#1
johnm Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North of England Posts: 173 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	variation on CTD - Crash to reboot! I've recently built a new machine - ECS GeForce 6100PM-M2, Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2gb memory and nvidia 8600 with 1gb. Only because my old machine struggled with SH3/GWX. After installing XP I had problems with sound drivers and eventually gave up and bought a USB sound thingy. When running SH3/GW2.1 it loads fast, runs fine but whenever I close the program it displays a blue screen full of information for about 2 seconds then reboots the machine! A few days ago it did the same trick but when the machine came back up again. it announced that the partition was unusable. I am now unable to boot the machine into xp and it looks like I will have to completely re-install XP, SH3 & GW2.1. Naturally I'm not happy. My problem is this -- do you think the problem is in SH3 or the hardware? Sorry I can't give details of mods etc but I can't get into the machine at all. Last edited by johnm; 11-09-08 at 12:27 PM.

11-09-08, 05:57 PM	#2
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	you could try,start the computer,put your windows xp disc in drive then restart the computer and start pressing f8 continusly,and you should be given the option to boot straight from the disc,press enter.this should take you to the winXP instilation screen,where there is an option to repair windows,usually by pressing R then follow instructions....if that doesn't work then it could be a full reinstall,best of luck. If it does work, the pc will reboot and you should be able to log into windows. Providing you can do this, restart in safe mode and remove the game completely and reinstall it.. then reboot in normal mode, hope this is of some help. __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

11-15-08, 05:27 PM	#3
johnm Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North of England Posts: 173 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Thanks, just returned from holiday. Will try and report. Over and out! Last edited by johnm; 11-15-08 at 05:27 PM.

11-16-08, 12:19 AM	#5
johnno74 Planesman Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 197 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It sounds like a driver problem, or perhaps hardware. Its definitely not a SH3 problem, a bluescreen indicates a crash in a hardware driver, or the OS itself. The fact that this is reproduceable indicates its more likely drivers. Unfortunately you've had the bad luck to get a bluescreen in the middle of something writing to your HD, and as a result something important got corrupted. This is extremely unusual.... Is your HD formatted as NTFS or FAT? NTFS is far, far more resistant to this sort of corruption. If you get it going a good first step in diagnosing this is to go into my computer properties, startup and recovery, and untick the "automatically reboot" option under "system failure." Then next time it happens, write down the stop error code (2 digit hex number) and the first number after this (6 or 8 digits) you'll see something like "STOP 0x7c (0x00000123......." its the first two sets of numbers that tell you the most. If it is a driver crash you often get the name of the driver somewhere down the bottom of the screen - look for a filename ending in .sys Let us know how you go... __________________ When you pull the pin from Mr. Grenade, he is no longer your friend.

11-17-08, 06:42 AM	#6
maddysad Sailor man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 50 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Hi IMHO but I'm no expert Your problem is probably Graphics card related Blue screen reads Nv 4 (I think) I have NV8600GS 512 and have 3GB memory XP and occassionally receive Blue Screen of Death when loading IL2 1946 which should require less effort from my card.SH3 runs great with everthing full on (just slows down in heated battles) I have tried various drivers to no avail Try reducing some of your settings a little AA, resolution, etc etc Also consider Overheating as My purchase of a massive fan in a larger case helped immensely Afraid I settle for "I need BETTER Graphic Card but can live with what I have at the moment" Good luck maddysad __________________ "All men are brothers, like the seas throughout the world; So why do winds and waves clash so fiercely everywhere?" - Emperor Hirohito (1940) Last edited by maddysad; 11-17-08 at 06:50 AM.

11-15-08, 07:56 PM	#4
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Is the harddrive new, the partition message would make me re-partition, format and a complete re-installation. If that failed I'd get a new drive. I'd also put windows in its own partition, makes maintanance far easier.