Blue and Gold

Neptunus Rex · 09-10-08, 10:31 PM

America had it's Blue and Gold crews for the boomers to keep'em at sea. Now the Aussie's take it a step farther with Blue and Gold SUBS!

No disrespect to my Aussie submarine friends, but what's up with the brass?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...0-2702,00.html

baggygreen · 09-10-08, 10:57 PM

Its a bloody mess..

Half the problem is that the subs are mainly based out of Perth, WA. sure there is a nice bonus for joining subs, but the navy can't compete with the mining sector in terms of wages and conditions!! Anyone who's looking for a job and has an electrical / engineering degree is getting picked up by the mines further up the WA coast.

the additional problems of having to be away from home is an issue, as is the fact every bloody schoolteacher in the country is telling kids that war is always bad and anyone who is involved in any way are going straight to hell... theres simply noone filling the gaps.

And Kruddy wants to grow the navy.... i'd love to know how. its more of his hot-air BS

bookworm_020 · 09-11-08, 01:13 AM

Ater seeing the documentary on the collins class sub a couple of year back I can see why this has happened, when a wife was told on her wedding day by the captain that he would be away from her for over 3/4 of the year, you can see the choice.

Be paid well to live in a steel tube with 40 others for months on a end, or

Be paid more for a job where you can see the wife on a more regular basis, and the kids don't see you as a stranger!

They really should have had two crews for each boat, it would have ment the boats could have been at sea for longer, and the crews under less stress.

TarJak · 09-11-08, 05:10 AM

Yup and KRudd carrying on about an Asian arms race is NOT going to encourage more people to join the forces either.

Come get paid less for worse conditions and have an increased possiblity of getting killed whilst doing your job. Not what I'd call a good marketing pitch.

Jimbuna · 09-11-08, 07:29 AM

Only sufficient numbers to crew 1/3 of the fleet :hmm:

Simple solution.....up the wage structure....your certainly not talking in numbers like millionns.

Konovalov · 09-11-08, 08:05 AM

My bloodpressure shot through the roof after reading that article in the Oz.

Can we start paying these guys what they are worth please?

Otherwise we are going to have half a dozen expensive white elephants.

I feel like my hard earned tax dollars have been used to finance a few floating museums.

09-10-08, 10:31 PM	#1
Neptunus Rex Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 294 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Blue and Gold America had it's Blue and Gold crews for the boomers to keep'em at sea. Now the Aussie's take it a step farther with Blue and Gold SUBS! No disrespect to my Aussie submarine friends, but what's up with the brass? http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...0-2702,00.html __________________ Neptunus Rex sends "In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president." A.C. 11-5-08

09-11-08, 01:13 AM	#3
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ater seeing the documentary on the collins class sub a couple of year back I can see why this has happened, when a wife was told on her wedding day by the captain that he would be away from her for over 3/4 of the year, you can see the choice. Be paid well to live in a steel tube with 40 others for months on a end, or Be paid more for a job where you can see the wife on a more regular basis, and the kids don't see you as a stranger! They really should have had two crews for each boat, it would have ment the boats could have been at sea for longer, and the crews under less stress. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

09-11-08, 07:29 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Only sufficient numbers to crew 1/3 of the fleet :hmm: Simple solution.....up the wage structure....your certainly not talking in numbers like millionns. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-11-08, 08:05 AM	#6
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	My bloodpressure shot through the roof after reading that article in the Oz. Can we start paying these guys what they are worth please? Otherwise we are going to have half a dozen expensive white elephants. I feel like my hard earned tax dollars have been used to finance a few floating museums. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

09-10-08, 10:57 PM	#2
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Its a bloody mess.. Half the problem is that the subs are mainly based out of Perth, WA. sure there is a nice bonus for joining subs, but the navy can't compete with the mining sector in terms of wages and conditions!! Anyone who's looking for a job and has an electrical / engineering degree is getting picked up by the mines further up the WA coast. the additional problems of having to be away from home is an issue, as is the fact every bloody schoolteacher in the country is telling kids that war is always bad and anyone who is involved in any way are going straight to hell... theres simply noone filling the gaps. And Kruddy wants to grow the navy.... i'd love to know how. its more of his hot-air BS

09-11-08, 05:10 AM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Yup and KRudd carrying on about an Asian arms race is NOT going to encourage more people to join the forces either. Come get paid less for worse conditions and have an increased possiblity of getting killed whilst doing your job. Not what I'd call a good marketing pitch.