SH3+GWX2.0+GWX2.1 Versus SH4 + TMO+OM

StarLion45 · 09-03-08, 04:32 PM

Hi everyone!
I was in Sweden on a vacation for a week.
The first thing I do the next morning was to buy new RAM ( 2GB extra) and
SH4 " Uboat Missions" , it's a lot cheaper than in Norway

So I was really looking forward to try out this new game:p
The week went so sloow , and finally I was home at last , to try this out

I installed the SH4 and the "Uboat Missions " while my heart was pumping.
I fool around in this forum to find some proper mods to use, so I ended up with TMO (Trigger Maru Overhauled) and OM (Operation Monsun) and some other small mods . I installed JSGME and enabled these mods , and was ready to go

Geee , I was disapointed ! The sea was so ugly that it scared me to death

It looks like oil painting ! To tell you the thruth , it was the most bouring game I've had played in my life , I never , never gonna play that game again in my life ,exept if there is gonna be a H..of a Mod coming up in the future . Some small little birds in this forum whispering about a GWX4 that's coming up in the next year

Until then I stick with the good ol' SH3 with GWX2.0 & GWX2.1+SH3Cmdr3.1 & JSGME

And now the new JSGME coming up too .

Yabba dabba dooo

kylania · 09-03-08, 07:35 PM

I recently picked SH4 + Uboats back up and was playing it and to be honest, I missed SH III so much after that I reinstalled it!

A lot of it probably has to do with the fact that I understand the Uboat war more than the US sub war. And that the Uboat's were getting their orders from COMSUBPAC all the time!?

StarLion45 · 09-03-08, 07:46 PM

I agree me too re-installed SH3 right a way

What is it with this SH3 with GWX? Every game I had played after SH3 it's bouring

I missing this game so much after playing other games

Reece · 09-03-08, 08:19 PM

Yes it must be said that the GWX team has one hell of of a job in front of them, it really wouldn't surprise me it they tossed it in!

Yorktown_Class · 09-03-08, 08:20 PM

I have both,and I try to stick with SH4 but I always end up back with SH3..

Sailor Steve · 09-03-08, 10:06 PM

Okay, you're looking at SH4 out of the box. Have you looked at any of the environmental mods? I guess none of you were around when SH3 was new. Play SH3 with no mods for awhile. You'll see a huge difference. As for graphics comparisons, here are a couple of similar shots from both.

SH3 with GWX 2.1 and IABL's new T2 model:

And SH4 with no mods except WClear's environment:

SH4's graphic engine is a definite improvement, and once the different modders have put their touch on the Atlantic side, it's going to be even better. I love SH3, but I think in another year or two it will be forgotten, as SH4 is the same game with better crew management, better campaign management, better loading times and better graphics.

For now, stick with it, but don't knock the future. It can only get better.

StarLion45 · 09-03-08, 10:24 PM

I was very very around when SH3 came out. Infact in March that year (2005)
I was on a gig in southern Norway and played in a blues festival and run to the store and bought that game

It was ugly without those mods I agree with you there , but if you're reading the bottom of my post ,you'll see that I am waiting for that GWX4 ,until then I stick with SH3

I wish that someone could do something with the sea in SH4:hmm: it is terrible ugly

Reece · 09-03-08, 10:41 PM

I have to agree with StarLion, looks sort of like a skin over the water, like a painting, and I ran all the various ROW mods, however the reflections, wakes etc are great!

ReallyDedPoet · 09-04-08, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Okay, you're looking at SH4 out of the box. Have you looked at any of the environmental mods? I guess none of you were around when SH3 was new. Play SH3 with no mods for awhile. You'll see a huge difference. As for graphics comparisons, here are a couple of similar shots from both.

SH3 with GWX 2.1 and IABL's new T2 model:

And SH4 with no mods except WClear's environment:

SH4's graphic engine is a definite improvement, and once the different modders have put their touch on the Atlantic side, it's going to be even better. I love SH3, but I think in another year or two it will be forgotten, as SH4 is the same game with better crew management, better campaign management, better loading times and better graphics.

For now, stick with it, but don't knock the future. It can only get better.

Nice post Steve, some good things in here. I'll throw in " don't knock the present as well " as far a SH4.

RDP

GoldenRivet · 09-04-08, 07:38 AM

I have had a decent time playing SH4 with some mods.

In your post with the comparison shots, its easy to see how much better the water can look.

but IMHO, a subsim should be about more than the look... it needs substance. if a company is going to release a game which is to revolutionize subsims... it had better revolutionize subsims, not just be a new pretty face.

SH4 just doesnt feel right. its hard to explain.

Playing SH3 is like kissing the prom queen.

Playing SH4 is like kissing your cousin or something!

I have knocked SH4 pretty hard in the past, but i wont do that in this thread, all i will say is ... it just doesnt have the right feel.:hmm: and thats what it boils down to for me.

09-03-08, 04:32 PM	#1
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	SH3+GWX2.0+GWX2.1 Versus SH4 + TMO+OM Hi everyone! I was in Sweden on a vacation for a week. The first thing I do the next morning was to buy new RAM ( 2GB extra) and SH4 " Uboat Missions" , it's a lot cheaper than in Norway So I was really looking forward to try out this new game:p The week went so sloow , and finally I was home at last , to try this out I installed the SH4 and the "Uboat Missions " while my heart was pumping. I fool around in this forum to find some proper mods to use, so I ended up with TMO (Trigger Maru Overhauled) and OM (Operation Monsun) and some other small mods . I installed JSGME and enabled these mods , and was ready to go Geee , I was disapointed ! The sea was so ugly that it scared me to death It looks like oil painting ! To tell you the thruth , it was the most bouring game I've had played in my life , I never , never gonna play that game again in my life ,exept if there is gonna be a H..of a Mod coming up in the future . Some small little birds in this forum whispering about a GWX4 that's coming up in the next year Until then I stick with the good ol' SH3 with GWX2.0 & GWX2.1+SH3Cmdr3.1 & JSGME And now the new JSGME coming up too . Yabba dabba dooo

09-03-08, 07:35 PM	#2
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	I recently picked SH4 + Uboats back up and was playing it and to be honest, I missed SH III so much after that I reinstalled it! A lot of it probably has to do with the fact that I understand the Uboat war more than the US sub war. And that the Uboat's were getting their orders from COMSUBPAC all the time!? __________________

09-03-08, 07:46 PM	#3
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	yeah me too I agree me too re-installed SH3 right a way What is it with this SH3 with GWX? Every game I had played after SH3 it's bouring I missing this game so much after playing other games

09-03-08, 08:19 PM	#4
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,696 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yes it must be said that the GWX team has one hell of of a job in front of them, it really wouldn't surprise me it they tossed it in! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

09-03-08, 08:20 PM	#5
Yorktown_Class Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 263 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	I have both,and I try to stick with SH4 but I always end up back with SH3.. __________________ David

09-03-08, 10:06 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Okay, you're looking at SH4 out of the box. Have you looked at any of the environmental mods? I guess none of you were around when SH3 was new. Play SH3 with no mods for awhile. You'll see a huge difference. As for graphics comparisons, here are a couple of similar shots from both. SH3 with GWX 2.1 and IABL's new T2 model: And SH4 with no mods except WClear's environment: SH4's graphic engine is a definite improvement, and once the different modders have put their touch on the Atlantic side, it's going to be even better. I love SH3, but I think in another year or two it will be forgotten, as SH4 is the same game with better crew management, better campaign management, better loading times and better graphics. For now, stick with it, but don't knock the future. It can only get better. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-03-08, 10:24 PM	#7
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Hmmm Sailor Steve... I was very very around when SH3 came out. Infact in March that year (2005) I was on a gig in southern Norway and played in a blues festival and run to the store and bought that game It was ugly without those mods I agree with you there , but if you're reading the bottom of my post ,you'll see that I am waiting for that GWX4 ,until then I stick with SH3 I wish that someone could do something with the sea in SH4:hmm: it is terrible ugly

09-03-08, 10:41 PM	#8
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,696 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I have to agree with StarLion, looks sort of like a skin over the water, like a painting, and I ran all the various ROW mods, however the reflections, wakes etc are great! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

09-04-08, 07:38 AM	#10
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I have had a decent time playing SH4 with some mods. In your post with the comparison shots, its easy to see how much better the water can look. but IMHO, a subsim should be about more than the look... it needs substance. if a company is going to release a game which is to revolutionize subsims... it had better revolutionize subsims, not just be a new pretty face. SH4 just doesnt feel right. its hard to explain. Playing SH3 is like kissing the prom queen. Playing SH4 is like kissing your cousin or something! I have knocked SH4 pretty hard in the past, but i wont do that in this thread, all i will say is ... it just doesnt have the right feel.:hmm: and thats what it boils down to for me. __________________