RFB & IJN's 'friendly fire'?!

SteamWake · 08-28-08, 10:40 AM

Last night I was tasked with a photo recon mission in a harbor on Honshu Island. The location is un important.

As we creeped towards the port submerged at periscope depth at 2 knots the sound reports were comming in almost too fast to keep up with. Some closing, some departing some stationary? Anyhow I went to the sonar to have a listen for myself. While sweeping around the dial I heard the usual screw noises then.... explosions!

Depth charges? Way far off... What tha?!

I couldent help it anymore I went to external cam (yea I cheat...

) and lo and behold not 1 not two but 4! colums of smoke. Weather is calm sea is flat clear skys you can see for miles.

So I 'flew' the external cam around to find two destroyers on fire, one sinking, another pair of sub chasers on fire and over there a ship, aground, on fire.

I panned about and looked for allied contacts and or aircraft and found nothing.

All in all two IJN ships sunk a couple others disabled I cant really say how many were damaged.

Long story short, we completed our mission, sunk two large transports on our way out but... Im left wondering, what the hell happend back there? Did I miss some AI vs AI action? Or did the AI just start running into itself?

Quillan · 08-28-08, 11:33 AM

I have never seen it in that circumstance, but if two surface ships are shooting at you, and one hits the other, the one that is hit will return fire on the shooter and thus start a gun battle between them.

Rip · 08-30-08, 09:47 AM

I saw a similar thing once and the best I could tell many of them were sinking because of collisions with each other. I have never seen this type of thing except in restricted waters.

Sailor Steve · 08-30-08, 10:43 AM

In the Convoy Attack training mission in SH3 something similar always happens: There is a destroyer and an armed trawler. Even if you stay underwater and never get seen, the trawler starts shooting at the destroyer and keeps it up until it's sunk. Not a civilized way to behave, I think.

Task Force · 08-30-08, 11:06 AM

I say let them release there anger on eatch other, Better them than me.:rotfl: I myeslf have seen sumular things when ships run aground or spawn with a small part inside eatch other.

Mush Martin · 08-30-08, 08:48 PM

Ive seen this a lot and done it on purpose
in shIII and shIV

did you put your scope up?

when I do it on purpose on run close alongside an
escort and put up the scope to get his mates to start
firing at my scope. with the nearby escort behind my
scope he inevitebly will take a hit and the game is afoot
he will run up colours and treat the offender as a renegade.
any of the other escorts will pick a side based on the price of
saurkraut in tai pei.

meh! it works for me especially if im short on torpedo's.
A fine and Thoroughly damned unenglish way of running up the score.

SteamWake · 08-30-08, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

Ive seen this a lot and done it on purpose
in shIII and shIV

did you put your scope up?

when I do it on purpose on run close alongside an
escort and put up the scope to get his mates to start
firing at my scope. with the nearby escort behind my
scope he inevitebly will take a hit and the game is afoot
he will run up colours and treat the offender as a renegade.
any of the other escorts will pick a side based on the price of
saurkraut in tai pei.

meh! it works for me especially if im short on torpedo's.
A fine and Thoroughly damned unenglish way of running up the score.

Nah we were well over 8,000 meters er... sorry yards away submerged and tracking sound contacts.

JHuschke · 08-31-08, 02:18 AM

Hmm..sometimes allies just piss each other off and take it out on one another. Same happens in the Kriegsmarine..have seen..many British fire at each other löl

Task Force · 08-31-08, 02:35 AM

The AI could have had issues when entering the game as ship. Eeer ran into eatchother, Spawned to close.

09-01-08, 01:37 AM

Had an similar experience some days ago when a Mogami blew a Mutsuki out of the water. There's some issue with the AI that keeps it quite narrow-minded like first: shoot with everything you've got at the enemy, second: empty, third: empty, fourth: look where you're going, fifth: look where you're shells landed, sixth: ups!

08-28-08, 10:40 AM	#1
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	RFB & IJN's 'friendly fire'?! Last night I was tasked with a photo recon mission in a harbor on Honshu Island. The location is un important. As we creeped towards the port submerged at periscope depth at 2 knots the sound reports were comming in almost too fast to keep up with. Some closing, some departing some stationary? Anyhow I went to the sonar to have a listen for myself. While sweeping around the dial I heard the usual screw noises then.... explosions! Depth charges? Way far off... What tha?! I couldent help it anymore I went to external cam (yea I cheat... ) and lo and behold not 1 not two but 4! colums of smoke. Weather is calm sea is flat clear skys you can see for miles. So I 'flew' the external cam around to find two destroyers on fire, one sinking, another pair of sub chasers on fire and over there a ship, aground, on fire. I panned about and looked for allied contacts and or aircraft and found nothing. All in all two IJN ships sunk a couple others disabled I cant really say how many were damaged. Long story short, we completed our mission, sunk two large transports on our way out but... Im left wondering, what the hell happend back there? Did I miss some AI vs AI action? Or did the AI just start running into itself?

08-28-08, 11:33 AM	#2
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I have never seen it in that circumstance, but if two surface ships are shooting at you, and one hits the other, the one that is hit will return fire on the shooter and thus start a gun battle between them. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

08-30-08, 10:43 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	In the Convoy Attack training mission in SH3 something similar always happens: There is a destroyer and an armed trawler. Even if you stay underwater and never get seen, the trawler starts shooting at the destroyer and keeps it up until it's sunk. Not a civilized way to behave, I think. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-30-08, 11:06 AM	#5
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I say let them release there anger on eatch other, Better them than me.:rotfl: I myeslf have seen sumular things when ships run aground or spawn with a small part inside eatch other. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-30-08, 08:48 PM	#6
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ive seen this a lot and done it on purpose in shIII and shIV did you put your scope up? when I do it on purpose on run close alongside an escort and put up the scope to get his mates to start firing at my scope. with the nearby escort behind my scope he inevitebly will take a hit and the game is afoot he will run up colours and treat the offender as a renegade. any of the other escorts will pick a side based on the price of saurkraut in tai pei. meh! it works for me especially if im short on torpedo's. A fine and Thoroughly damned unenglish way of running up the score. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

08-30-08, 09:47 AM	#3
Rip Commodore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Right behind you! Posts: 643 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I saw a similar thing once and the best I could tell many of them were sinking because of collisions with each other. I have never seen this type of thing except in restricted waters.

08-31-08, 02:18 AM	#8
JHuschke XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 432 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Hmm..sometimes allies just piss each other off and take it out on one another. Same happens in the Kriegsmarine..have seen..many British fire at each other löl

08-31-08, 02:35 AM	#9
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The AI could have had issues when entering the game as ship. Eeer ran into eatchother, Spawned to close. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-01-08, 01:37 AM	#10
gmuno Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Had an similar experience some days ago when a Mogami blew a Mutsuki out of the water. There's some issue with the AI that keeps it quite narrow-minded like first: shoot with everything you've got at the enemy, second: empty, third: empty, fourth: look where you're going, fifth: look where you're shells landed, sixth: ups!