Google getting a rival?

Skybird · 07-29-08, 01:38 AM

http://www.cuil.com/info/

Up and running. Let's bring their servers down!

Ebay no longer is a private selling platform, but is controlled by professional traders, it seems. Google's usability has suffered in the past two years, because too much advertizing controls the search results and, as the intorduction above mentions, too primitive metrics. The disadvantage of Microsoft's de facto monopole position for customers must not be explained. I think a healthy rival for Google would be good, like it would be good to have a second wikipedia-style online encyclopedia where not everybody can write whatever he wants and fears for PC can make it being deleted again, but must prove his professionality regarding the article's content.

Tchocky · 07-29-08, 05:23 AM

This algorithm is horrific, as is the presentation of results.

I don't expect to see much more of Cuil.

Raptor1 · 07-29-08, 05:31 AM

Yeah, it does seem rather pathetic, Google keeps everything clean and simple (Discounting the ads), while they have the layout of one of those business sites that nobody ever visits

EDIT: ROFL, if you search for Subsim you won't even find this site

kiwi_2005 · 07-29-08, 05:40 AM

There are many search engines already out there what makes Cuil any better. And why change it when it works. Bit like why go to vista when xp works fine for you... Right?

Google's simple to use.

Skybird · 07-29-08, 05:48 AM

Give it some time, and check their staff list. They got key personell from Google and Wikipedia, so I assume their gang has the capability to learn and improve. Google is so huge that you cannot expect it to be beaten in the first attempt, on day one, out of the box.

One thing I already like: the massive reduction of commercial links and advert links in the results.

UnderseaLcpl · 07-29-08, 08:16 AM

Another unexpected thread from you, skybird. I hav eto completely agree that competition could only help. And here I was thinking you would advocate nationalization of google

Stealth Hunter · 07-29-08, 08:25 AM

I prefer to use Cthuugle:

http://www.cthuugle.com/

Do you hear the pipes, Cthulhu?
They were being played by shoggoths on the shores of Carcosa
Can you hear our prayers, Cthulhu?
Deep in sunken R'lyeh waiting for the rightness of a star?
Where the Deep Ones worship Dagon, Mother Hydra in sea chambers built afar?

Chorus:
There was chanting in the air that night
The stars were right, Cthulhu!
You were dreaming of your destiny
Beneath the sea, Cthulhu!
Though the Elder Gods have cast you down
Have no regret
As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!

We are waiting O Cthulhu
Sacrificing virgins while the nightgaunts hover 'gainst the moon
Seeking power O Cthulhu
Drawing sigils in their blood and Elder Signs and other runes
They were dying drenched in madness and the eldritch vapors of a thousand dooms
(chorus)
You are sleeping Great Cthulhu
Never knowing the unspeakable things we do in your name
But don't worry Great Cthulhu
We will carry on destroying without sanity or shame
Till the universe resounds with all the sounds of lost souls shrieking out in pain
(chorus)
As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!

Skybird · 07-29-08, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Another unexpected thread from you, skybird. I hav eto completely agree that competition could only help. And here I was thinking you would advocate nationalization of google

Wait 'til you have seen the Klingon original!

SUBMAN1 · 07-30-08, 10:54 AM

Cuil not doing so hot yet:

http://www.dailytech.com/A+Series+of...ticle12515.htm

In case you care, it is pronouced 'cool'.

-S

Jimbuna · 07-30-08, 12:13 PM

As already stated, it's early days, but I still find Google friendlier and easier to use.

SUBMAN1 · 07-30-08, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

As already stated, it's early days, but I still find Google friendlier and easier to use.

Google used to be better. It used to find exactly what you want. This is before people started paying to have their names placed at the top.

This is why i am waiting for the Cuil to finially work. It will once again find things that Google has long since forgotten.

-S

Jimbuna · 07-30-08, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

As already stated, it's early days, but I still find Google friendlier and easier to use.

Google used to be better. It used to find exactly what you want. This is before people started paying to have their names placed at the top.

This is why i am waiting for the Cuil to finially work. It will once again find things that Google has long since forgotten.

-S

....until it ends up going the same way as Google has

SUBMAN1 · 07-30-08, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

....until it ends up going the same way as Google has

Then we will wait for something new once again!

-S

longam · 07-30-08, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Yeah, it does seem rather pathetic, Google keeps everything clean and simple (Discounting the ads), while they have the layout of one of those business sites that nobody ever visits

EDIT: ROFL, if you search for Subsim you won't even find this site

Neal needs to submit.
http://www.cuil.com/info/webmaster_info/

edit: do a search for silent hunter 4, results are better

07-29-08, 01:38 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Google getting a rival? http://www.cuil.com/info/ Up and running. Let's bring their servers down! Ebay no longer is a private selling platform, but is controlled by professional traders, it seems. Google's usability has suffered in the past two years, because too much advertizing controls the search results and, as the intorduction above mentions, too primitive metrics. The disadvantage of Microsoft's de facto monopole position for customers must not be explained. I think a healthy rival for Google would be good, like it would be good to have a second wikipedia-style online encyclopedia where not everybody can write whatever he wants and fears for PC can make it being deleted again, but must prove his professionality regarding the article's content. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-29-08, 05:23 AM	#2
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	This algorithm is horrific, as is the presentation of results. I don't expect to see much more of Cuil. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-29-08, 05:31 AM	#3
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Yeah, it does seem rather pathetic, Google keeps everything clean and simple (Discounting the ads), while they have the layout of one of those business sites that nobody ever visits EDIT: ROFL, if you search for Subsim you won't even find this site __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

07-29-08, 05:48 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Give it some time, and check their staff list. They got key personell from Google and Wikipedia, so I assume their gang has the capability to learn and improve. Google is so huge that you cannot expect it to be beaten in the first attempt, on day one, out of the box. One thing I already like: the massive reduction of commercial links and advert links in the results. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-29-08 at 06:15 AM.

07-29-08, 08:16 AM	#6
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Another unexpected thread from you, skybird. I hav eto completely agree that competition could only help. And here I was thinking you would advocate nationalization of google __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

07-29-08, 05:40 AM	#4
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	There are many search engines already out there what makes Cuil any better. And why change it when it works. Bit like why go to vista when xp works fine for you... Right? Google's simple to use.

07-29-08, 08:25 AM	#7
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I prefer to use Cthuugle: http://www.cthuugle.com/ Do you hear the pipes, Cthulhu? They were being played by shoggoths on the shores of Carcosa Can you hear our prayers, Cthulhu? Deep in sunken R'lyeh waiting for the rightness of a star? Where the Deep Ones worship Dagon, Mother Hydra in sea chambers built afar? Chorus: There was chanting in the air that night The stars were right, Cthulhu! You were dreaming of your destiny Beneath the sea, Cthulhu! Though the Elder Gods have cast you down Have no regret As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu! We are waiting O Cthulhu Sacrificing virgins while the nightgaunts hover 'gainst the moon Seeking power O Cthulhu Drawing sigils in their blood and Elder Signs and other runes They were dying drenched in madness and the eldritch vapors of a thousand dooms (chorus) You are sleeping Great Cthulhu Never knowing the unspeakable things we do in your name But don't worry Great Cthulhu We will carry on destroying without sanity or shame Till the universe resounds with all the sounds of lost souls shrieking out in pain (chorus) As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!

07-30-08, 10:54 AM	#9
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Cuil not doing so hot yet: http://www.dailytech.com/A+Series+of...ticle12515.htm In case you care, it is pronouced 'cool'. -S __________________

07-30-08, 12:13 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,446 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	As already stated, it's early days, but I still find Google friendlier and easier to use. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!