Clearing the TDC

[Fearless]

Howdy, I seem to have a prob with TDC (non-manual setting)

I lock the target press the position keeper than fire the torp. 1st time no probs but the next time when I target another ship, the torps just make a sharp turn and no luck in hitting the target.

What is the procedure for clearing the settings in TDC before targetting a new ship.

[Mush Martin]

Switch off the PK update Ship ID speed course and range for the second target and restart PK good to go (assuming you got good data)

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

Switch off the PK update Ship ID speed course and range for the second target and restart PK good to go (assuming you got good data)

Well, I've tried every possible combination. I have auto TDC and no matter what I try, the torpedoes make a sharp left turn. I've turned off the PK, re ID'd the target than restarted the PK.

The torps just won't track the ship I've targetted. So the TDC for some reason is St***ed. It is pointless re-targetting if it doesn't work.

[Mush Martin]

Im tellin ya your missing refreshing the ship ID at the start of the
second ship.

[Fearless]

Ok, I'll play the devil's advocate here. I've never had any problems with auto TDC before except for now. My understanding was that with auto TDC, you turn off the PK, line up the scope with the new target with the scope or uzo, lock it, turn on PK to update new target details in the TDC than fire. Correct!!. If not than how do you refresh the ID when in auto mode seeing that was meant to happen automatically in auto mode.

[Rockin Robbins]

Fearless, you don't need to clear the TDC. You don't have to turn the PK off and on either. These are urban legends. The TDC works like a spreadsheet. When you enter a new piece of info into the TDC it merely replaces the old one.

So it is merely necessary to replace each item there. What's in that contraption?

1. The identity of the target, found from your ID Manual after selecting the correct ship there. This sets up the stadimeter to give you the right range.

2. The speed of the target. Find by the method of your choice and input.

3. Target AoB or course. Enter that next

4. Target range and bearing. These are entered at the same time when you use the stadimeter. If you have the PK off, turn it on right after you enter range/bearing. Always enter range/bearing last.

As long as you replace all four pieces of information, entering range/bearing last, no resetting is necessary of TDC or PK. You will hit your target.

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Fearless, you don't need to clear the TDC. You don't have to turn the PK off and on either. These are urban legends. The TDC works like a spreadsheet. When you enter a new piece of info into the TDC it merely replaces the old one.

So it is merely necessary to replace each item there. What's in that contraption?

1. The identity of the target, found from your ID Manual after selecting the correct ship there. This sets up the stadimeter to give you the right range.

2. The speed of the target. Find by the method of your choice and input.

3. Target AoB or course. Enter that next

4. Target range and bearing. These are entered at the same time when you use the stadimeter. If you have the PK off, turn it on right after you enter range/bearing. Always enter range/bearing last.

As long as you replace all four pieces of information, entering range/bearing last, no resetting is necessary of TDC or PK. You will hit your target.

Thank you for that clarification RR but I'm not using the manual method. How does one reset in Auto mode?

[Monica Lewinsky]

Don't you click on the red circle "thingy" in the bottom right corner of the TDC panel and verify it is white or grey after moving the mouse about 1/4" and then lock on a new target with the "L" key?

I have NEVER had a problem focusing on a new target, line up the torps, and fire on the new target.

What's the problem with you?

FYI:

I do not play auto SH4 with girlie auto-targeting feature for whimps who have no nads. I play using manual targeting, so I might be "out to lunch" offering help for those that think auto targeting is "fun". Line up your balls before you shoot is my advice [like in a game of pool].

Got a Set of Great balls while using manual targeting ?, then you got a Great shot.

Put the s.o.b. on the bottom.

[Mush Martin]

I think so ML I cant remember now RDP would know

[Rockin Robbins]

It doesn't hurt anything to do that aside from the time wasted doing an unnecessary procedure that doesn't accomplish anything. You could also go to the head and brush your teeth with as much effect on targeting accuracy.

All that's necessary is the four steps in my above post. Anything else is ceremonial claptrap. You can do it if it makes you feel good but it won't help put the bugger on the bottom.

Nobody mentioned opening the torpedo tubes yet! You can do everything right but if you don't open the torpedo tubes at least 20 seconds or so before you fire, the torpedo will delay firing until they are open. This will cause you to miss astern and curse mightily.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

All that's necessary is the four steps in my above post. Anything else is ceremonial claptrap.

Maybe repost, because we are LAZY.

just kidding ya... I understand your point. Just look at it from another angle. Some people are lazy.

After the sighting the FIRST thing I do is set the depth of the eels with some sort of visual of what the target is.

Then I open all TORP tubes whether [forward and aft] I think I will use them or not. What is the harm in doing that?

Then I wait and ambush the s.o.b.

[Rockin Robbins]

I always open 'em just before I'm ready to shoot and after I set the depth because I don't want to forget. I also don't know how long they stay open on their own. But it's just my routine and I don't think it matters at all. Anybody know the answer to that one?

But as long as they're open when you shoot it doesn't matter to the best of my knowledge. The real boats didn't like their torps wet any longer than necessary, so they tended to open the doors after all solutions were satisfactory and just before they shot. I doubt that matters here.

[ddiplock]

Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

Don't you click on the red circle "thingy" in the bottom right corner of the TDC panel and verify it is white or grey after moving the mouse about 1/4" and then lock on a new target with the "L" key?

I have NEVER had a problem focusing on a new target, line up the torps, and fire on the new target.

What's the problem with you?

That's interesting, because i've had problems hitting more than one target. I use manual shooting like yourself. I encountered a 2 ship convoy, I input all the target data and ID'd both ships. Fired at the lead ship, then locked my scope onto the 2nd ship and fired, but the final torpedo still went for the first ship that i'd fired at previously and hit, despite my scope being locked onto the new ship

[aanker]

maerean_m (and others) described it pretty good here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118706

There was another old thread with pictures I thought I saw a while ago too; but I can't find it.

Art

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

FYI:

I do not play auto SH4 with girlie auto-targeting feature for whimps who have no nads. I play using manual targeting, so I might be "out to lunch" offering help for those that think auto targeting is "fun". Line up your balls before you shoot is my advice [like in a game of pool].

Got a Set of Great balls while using manual targeting ?, then you got a Great shot.

Put the s.o.b. on the bottom.

What a man!!!