[REQ] A pirate ship.

Sylvanas · 06-26-08, 06:19 AM

I've seen some work on here from some very talented playable shipbuilders and I know it might be a lot to ask for but as most of you probaby know, SH4 has The Flying Dutchman sailing about, doing whatever ghostships do.
Now, I'm a huge fan of pirates (not that I dislike submarines or something but imagine a Ghost ship hammering down on the japanese fleet) and especially Pirates of the Caribbean.

After watching it again for the so manyeth time, I felt like I wanted to sail in that ghost ship so I was wondering if any of you playable shipbuilders could work on making one (US preferable as I'd have to tweak and bug up the Flottilla file to keep Xantrokoles' PocketBB if it's GER) for me and every other pirateship lover on these forums.

Well... Either that or give me a noob-proof step by step guide on how I should do that and considering I'd like those cannons playable, it's probably not exactly easy to do wich is why I'd rather have someone else do it for me... If possible.

It doesn't have to be indestructible either (where'd be the fun in that?) but if someone could actually build this boat, make sure it doesn't get destroyed immediatly.
Oh, oh! And diving... It needs diving..... *Whistles innocently as he plans to surface the Dutchman next to a Merchant.*

If one of you would actually do this, I'd be very grateful...

Thanks in advance!

-Sylvanas.-

Edit: I already attempted to make the ship but I only get as far as the "Please Wait" screen after loading before a CTD. Could anyone fix it? Maybe add a couple guns? Make it playable and the likes...

My halfassed, broken version that isn't working:
http://files.filefront.com/Newsubrar.../fileinfo.html
Everything's just called Newsub as it was just to check if it worked with me... BTW, all of the textures are actually one and the same as it caused the whole game to crash during loading and I didn't have more then one texture to use.
I know, I'm hopeless at this...

Xantrokoles · 06-26-08, 12:28 PM

Hello Sylvanas and welcome to Subsim,

Your Ghostship is a very nice ship.
But making it playable, it would just be a 'candy for the eyes' thing and after the second time, you think:
mhmm I better choose the Balao, it is more fun to play.

Maybe you can search for Keltos01. He is able to do this for you in a few seconds

The Fishlord · 06-26-08, 02:26 PM

I'd have done this a LONG time ago if I could find the skins and model for it. PM me if you have any questions and I'll try to help.

Sylvanas · 06-26-08, 02:49 PM

As far as I know the model and skin (there's only one) are in Data/Sea/NFD.
I found the roster file for the Flying Dutchman and it pointed me to Data/Sea/FD or something and NFD could stand for NetherlandsFlyingDutchman as it's the only one with FD in its name...

Edit: On the other hand, doesn't look like it was that....
Edit2: I'm searching my whole computer now for the files (I only found the Roster file for it so I'm using that to find the rest).
Edit3: Well... The .dat file in NFD does seem to point to the Flying Dutchman so I gues NFD is the map that contains at least most files for the ship.

keltos01 · 06-27-08, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xantrokoles

Hello Sylvanas and welcome to Subsim,
Maybe you can search for Keltos01. He is able to do this for you in a few seconds

yeah right...:rotfl:

The thing is I'm really busy with the Hms Truant right now, and have another Jap sub on the backburner too, so not much time to devote to a ghost ship I'm affraid...

Here's what I can do : find me the .dat for that ship of yours, and I'll make you a basic playable ship, not saying it will be perfect and all cause that takes a lot of work and time, but that'll be a start for you.

You find the ships files (dat, sim, etc..) then tell me where they're at.

keltos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvanas

Well... As you might (or might not) have read on the forums, I'm looking for a nice playable shipbuilder that could... Build me a playable ship...

So, what I'd like would be
-The ghostship as a playable unit (US if possible)
can do if I get the original files (sim, dat)
-With a couple cannons on each side (yarr!)
max 2 as for subs
-That can dive (Pirates of the Caribean thing)
it's based on a sub....
-and is destructible (but not an all THAT easy target); I want it to be quite strong but not too strong as it's no fun if you can't possibly sink.

That's pretty much what I'd like and I'd be very grateful if you could find the time inbetween whatever you do to make it.

If you'd rather not start a "project" like this, please reply to me so I don't keep my hopes up. I'll understand.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the giant text I just made you read.

gonna take a nap now, we belgians are not used to reading so much you know :rotfl:
-Sylvanas.-

Sylvanas · 06-27-08, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xantrokoles

Hello Sylvanas and welcome to Subsim,
Maybe you can search for Keltos01. He is able to do this for you in a few seconds

yeah right...:rotfl:

The thing is I'm really busy with the Hms Truant right now, and have another Jap sub on the backburner too, so not much time to devote to a ghost ship I'm affraid...

Here's what I can do : find me the .dat for that ship of yours, and I'll make you a basic playable ship, not saying it will be perfect and all cause that takes a lot of work and time, but that'll be a start for you.

You find the ships files (dat, sim, etc..) then tell me where they're at.

keltos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvanas

Well... As you might (or might not) have read on the forums, I'm looking for a nice playable shipbuilder that could... Build me a playable ship...

So, what I'd like would be
-The ghostship as a playable unit (US if possible)
can do if I get the original files (sim, dat)
-With a couple cannons on each side (yarr!)
max 2 as for subs
-That can dive (Pirates of the Caribean thing)
it's based on a sub....
-and is destructible (but not an all THAT easy target); I want it to be quite strong but not too strong as it's no fun if you can't possibly sink.

That's pretty much what I'd like and I'd be very grateful if you could find the time inbetween whatever you do to make it.

If you'd rather not start a "project" like this, please reply to me so I don't keep my hopes up. I'll understand.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the giant text I just made you read.

gonna take a nap now, we belgians are not used to reading so much you know :rotfl:
-Sylvanas.-

*Points at location under his avatar! Belgium!!!*
Anyway, I've sent you a PM with the path where all the files (those that I've been able to find) should be at.

keltos01 · 06-27-08, 03:20 AM

found it ! it has all the needed files data\sea\nfd\

[Unit]
ClassName=Frigate
3DModelFileName=data/Sea/NFD/NFD
UnitType=11
MaxSpeed=25
Length=20
Width=4.5
Mast=11.5
Draft=2.5
Displacement=1500
DisplacementVariation=0
RenownAwarded=1000

you can sink it !

still looking for its dds
it comes from a SHIII file ! the tga is inside the .dat

now : what rotation number do you need for the inserted guns to be sideways ? do you add a deckgun on the bow ?

Sylvanas · 06-27-08, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

now : what rotation number do you need for the inserted guns to be sideways ? do you add a deckgun on the bow ?

Well, I had a little look at the nodes for the AI Dutchman but I don't think it's right...
All of the cannons safe for 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 say the rotation forall three textboxes is 0.

The ones that don't have zero everywhere (6,...) say "3,14159226" in both the first and the last rotation box (XY and YZ).

I don't know if that might help but it's the best I can do.

keltos01 · 06-27-08, 08:47 AM

I'm basing this on Mikhayl's Small Oiler mod, the guns here are all 25mm, I'll try and get this boat ingame but there's more to it than the hull... (masts etc...)

so don't get overexcited !

Mickle · 06-29-08, 11:24 AM

I'm not going to lie... I am already excited

Was tempted to try this myself before I realised I didn't have the slightest clue what I was doing

Sylvanas · 06-29-08, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickle

...before I realised I didn't have the slightest clue what I was doing

That makes two of us...
And I'm quite excited too.... I need the Dutchman!

"The Dutchman sails as it's captain commands."

Sylvanas · 07-04-08, 03:03 PM

*Walks around with his eyes closed, accidentally BUMPing into the thread.*

Seriously, at the very least say you don't wanna work on it, I don't wants to get my hopes up if you'd rather not work on it.

-Sylvanas.-

keltos01 · 07-04-08, 07:13 PM

I am but have other subs I'm working on right now so it's not gonna be like tomorrow, but I'll do it.

Sylvanas · 07-05-08, 03:21 AM

That's all I needed to hear. Really, thank you, Keltos for spending a portion of the time you have left on this.

06-26-08, 06:19 AM	#1
Sylvanas Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 14 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	[REQ] A playable pirate ship. I've seen some work on here from some very talented playable shipbuilders and I know it might be a lot to ask for but as most of you probaby know, SH4 has The Flying Dutchman sailing about, doing whatever ghostships do. Now, I'm a huge fan of pirates (not that I dislike submarines or something but imagine a Ghost ship hammering down on the japanese fleet) and especially Pirates of the Caribbean. After watching it again for the so manyeth time, I felt like I wanted to sail in that ghost ship so I was wondering if any of you playable shipbuilders could work on making one (US preferable as I'd have to tweak and bug up the Flottilla file to keep Xantrokoles' PocketBB if it's GER) for me and every other pirateship lover on these forums. Well... Either that or give me a noob-proof step by step guide on how I should do that and considering I'd like those cannons playable, it's probably not exactly easy to do wich is why I'd rather have someone else do it for me... If possible. It doesn't have to be indestructible either (where'd be the fun in that?) but if someone could actually build this boat, make sure it doesn't get destroyed immediatly. Oh, oh! And diving... It needs diving..... Whistles innocently as he plans to surface the Dutchman next to a Merchant. If one of you would actually do this, I'd be very grateful... Thanks in advance! -Sylvanas.- Edit: I already attempted to make the ship but I only get as far as the "Please Wait" screen after loading before a CTD. Could anyone fix it? Maybe add a couple guns? Make it playable and the likes... My halfassed, broken version that isn't working: http://files.filefront.com/Newsubrar.../fileinfo.html Everything's just called Newsub as it was just to check if it worked with me... BTW, all of the textures are actually one and the same as it caused the whole game to crash during loading and I didn't have more then one texture to use. I know, I'm hopeless at this... Last edited by Sylvanas; 06-26-08 at 11:32 AM.

06-26-08, 12:28 PM	#2
Xantrokoles Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 659 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Hello Sylvanas and welcome to Subsim, Your Ghostship is a very nice ship. But making it playable, it would just be a 'candy for the eyes' thing and after the second time, you think: mhmm I better choose the Balao, it is more fun to play. Maybe you can search for Keltos01. He is able to do this for you in a few seconds __________________

06-27-08, 03:20 AM	#7
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	nfd found it ! it has all the needed files data\sea\nfd\ [Unit] ClassName=Frigate 3DModelFileName=data/Sea/NFD/NFD UnitType=11 MaxSpeed=25 Length=20 Width=4.5 Mast=11.5 Draft=2.5 Displacement=1500 DisplacementVariation=0 RenownAwarded=1000 you can sink it ! still looking for its dds it comes from a SHIII file ! the tga is inside the .dat now : what rotation number do you need for the inserted guns to be sideways ? do you add a deckgun on the bow ? __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-27-08, 08:47 AM	#9
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I'm basing this on Mikhayl's Small Oiler mod, the guns here are all 25mm, I'll try and get this boat ingame but there's more to it than the hull... (masts etc...) so don't get overexcited ! __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-04-08, 03:03 PM	#12
Sylvanas Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 14 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Walks around with his eyes closed, accidentally BUMPing into the thread. Seriously, at the very least say you don't wanna work on it, I don't wants to get my hopes up if you'd rather not work on it. -Sylvanas.- __________________ Behold! Witness the glory of my epic beer container... More commonly known as The epic Mug of Vaneras: http://epicmug.ytmnd.com/ Joho, joho, a pirate's life for me.

06-26-08, 02:26 PM	#3
The Fishlord Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 185 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I'd have done this a LONG time ago if I could find the skins and model for it. PM me if you have any questions and I'll try to help.

06-26-08, 02:49 PM	#4
Sylvanas Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 14 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	As far as I know the model and skin (there's only one) are in Data/Sea/NFD. I found the roster file for the Flying Dutchman and it pointed me to Data/Sea/FD or something and NFD could stand for NetherlandsFlyingDutchman as it's the only one with FD in its name... Edit: On the other hand, doesn't look like it was that.... Edit2: I'm searching my whole computer now for the files (I only found the Roster file for it so I'm using that to find the rest). Edit3: Well... The .dat file in NFD does seem to point to the Flying Dutchman so I gues NFD is the map that contains at least most files for the ship.

06-29-08, 11:24 AM	#10
Mickle Watch Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I'm not going to lie... I am already excited Was tempted to try this myself before I realised I didn't have the slightest clue what I was doing

07-04-08, 07:13 PM	#13
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I am but have other subs I'm working on right now so it's not gonna be like tomorrow, but I'll do it. __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-05-08, 03:21 AM	#14
Sylvanas Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 14 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	That's all I needed to hear. Really, thank you, Keltos for spending a portion of the time you have left on this. __________________ Behold! Witness the glory of my epic beer container... More commonly known as The epic Mug of Vaneras: http://epicmug.ytmnd.com/ Joho, joho, a pirate's life for me.