Is adjusting trim angle available?

Frame57 · 06-21-08, 12:12 PM

I play both SC and DW both with mods. I was playing a mission and I decided (foolishly) to sneak up on a surface ship and TASM the guy to smitherines. Before i could a helo nailed me. I went to a flank bell and clicked on "Go deep". The best down angle i could achieve was 5 degrees down. Why would we not be able to click on the dive planes and adjust them to acheive an appropriate down angle like we can do with rudder? that would be more realism. I recall from the "Usta-fish" days that we pulled 20 degree angles often during angles and dangles. If you need to go deep fast you have to be able to adjust the angle of the boat.

PeriscopeDepth · 06-22-08, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

I play both SC and DW both with mods. I was playing a mission and I decided (foolishly) to sneak up on a surface ship and TASM the guy to smitherines. Before i could a helo nailed me. I went to a flank bell and clicked on "Go deep". The best down angle i could achieve was 5 degrees down. Why would we not be able to click on the dive planes and adjust them to acheive an appropriate down angle like we can do with rudder? that would be more realism. I recall from the "Usta-fish" days that we pulled 20 degree angles often during angles and dangles. If you need to go deep fast you have to be able to adjust the angle of the boat.

I don't believe it's possible to decide the bubble angle when you're heading down or up.

PD

Blacklight · 06-22-08, 01:54 PM

Unfortunately, dive angle is not controllable by us. Our crew handles it completely out of our control.

Trust Bernard ! He'll angle that sub perfectly for you every time !

Frame57 · 06-22-08, 05:09 PM

Thanks for responses. I read all the "read me" for the mods and did not see anything regarding it either. But for some reason I still want to "click" on the stern and fairwater planes. I just wanna do it!!!

Blacklight · 06-22-08, 10:03 PM

But you'll make your crew in the mess hall spill their coffee !

Frame57 · 06-24-08, 05:56 PM

Man, oh man, does that bring back memories. The cooks used to HATE angles and Dangles. No matter how prepared they were, stuff always found a way to go flying. Once some nitwit thought it would be fun to slide all the way down the Ops. middle level deck. this is the longest stretch on the 637 class boats. It runs all the way from the bow compartment to the trash disposal unit. A good 60 foot run or so. So we are pulling an up angle of more than 20 degress and away he goes. He slid so fast and hard that he left a couple of teeth on the TDU. I think he lost a stripe as well after the CO got done with him.

Bubblehead Nuke · 06-24-08, 10:02 PM

My favorite 'Angle & Dangle' memory:

One day, the CO goes down to the mess decks and asks what is for lunch. He got the reply of Corned Beef (or, as we used to call it: 'Baboon Ass'). He told the chief that he specifically stated that he disliked it (I mean he REALLY disliked it) and wanted something different. We was politely told that it was too late to start another meal but they would make sure that it was not served in the future.

The CO shrugged and went back up to control. About 20 seconds later the angle starts to come on. Down we go.... 30 degrees.. and the pots are a banging, the cooks are a swearing, and us nukes were smiling (we hated it too). After a few seconds the angle came off and we leveled out. A few seconds later UP we went into a 30 degree up angle.

Again, the pots were banging, the cooks were REALLY swearing now, and then the boat levels off.

The CO comes down the ladder and asks again what is for lunch. The chief gave a prompt 'cold cut sandwiches and chips'.

I can still remember the carnage that was in the galley.

Dr.Sid · 06-25-08, 05:11 AM

rofl

Frame57 · 06-25-08, 10:28 AM

Now that is a Skipper! We had a MSC who decided that rice (Philippino Ice cream) would be seved more often than not. Rice with lunch, rice with dinner and dessert (rice pudding). We were on the verge of mutiny and finally the wardroom got in the act too. It was not that the MSC just liked rice. Our stores load got screwed up and somehow we had 4 times what was ordered and nobody noticed. Our Skip decided it was time to shoot some waterslugs and guess where the rice ended up? "Snapshot Tube four!"

Dr.Sid · 06-25-08, 02:28 PM

Just few more and we have a material for another 'Down periscope'

Frame57 · 06-25-08, 06:58 PM

This is the kind of stuff you get at reunions. All the stories and funny stuff comes back into recall. I almost forgot about the one story until we started talking angles and dangles. I was reading some of the stories in the Submarine Almanac (which I enjoyed thoroughly). Maybe one day I will put them on paper and hope people enjoy them too. I often wonder how the crew on the Archerfish managed to become the squadron boat. We were the biggest bunch of party animals and clowns ever to grace a 637 class.

Bubblehead Nuke · 06-25-08, 09:12 PM

You want to kow how bad this sub thing stays in your blood??

Last week, I was on vacation up in New Hampshire/Maine. As we were coming down US1 we passed by a sub in the ground in Portsmouth, New Hampshire and my kids went nuts. They were asking me if that was the submarine I served on.

The boat in question was the USS Albacore and it is a static museum pulled out of the water and set on blocks.

I naturally pulled over for the unplanned stop.

We walked around and took some pics but my oldest PLEADED to go aboard.

I paid the fee and off I go with my 3 young kids. I was out of the Navy before they were born so they never got to see a modern boat.

NOTE: To those of you who EVER get a chance, go inside. It might be a diesel, but you will see the design philosophies that were used in the later nuke boats. I mean, it was EERIE going into it. The smells and the sounds. It put me right back into the old days in a heartbeat.

Anyway back to the post:

I was walking aft and noticed that the ventilation was not right. I mean, there was NO airflow into the engineroom. I looked over in the #2 diesel space and there was a placard on the bulkhead with the rig for surface bill. I looked at it a sec, walked back into the main engineroom, and rigged the space for surface ventilate in about 4 minutes. A lot of the valves are are not locked off and the sub is pretty much left as it was when they yanked it out of the water. A lot of the valves used the same naming nomeclatures that we had in the more modern boats. I then walked forward and rigged each space on the main deck for surface ventilate. There are NO tour guides and over time people naturally moved things that could be moved. The whole boat was in a half ass'd recirculate; rig for surface; rig for snorkel; rig for fire/flooding'. When I was done you could smell the air from the nearby sea and things 'felt right'.

I have not rigged a space in YEARS and it all came back to me in a flash. My kids (and a few other people who were also onboard) seemed to be in awe. Here I was reaching up opening and closing main induction valves and dampers like I had been there for years. They could note the change as the air started to flow properly.

In the end I had a feeling of satifaction as I walked out of the after hull opening. I am STILL sub qual'd, and better yet, I know it.

Molon Labe · 06-25-08, 10:31 PM

Nice.

Dr.Sid · 06-26-08, 03:45 AM

I wonder what would make you 'feel right' in torpedo room

Frame57 · 06-26-08, 10:40 AM

Yeah BN, I can relate. In fact i was just reading about the Albacore. Interesting boat. I met up with a few of my crewmates at a reunion. Some of these guys were of the "FTN" mentality while they were in. But now many years later they are going to reunions. It stays in their blood. On occaision I may get asked about my time on the boats and if I could would I do it again. I tell them honestly, "If you gave me a choice of Immeasurable wealth on one hand and on the other, the chance to be on the boats again, I would be reporting for duty in a New York second!"

06-21-08, 12:12 PM	#1
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Is adjusting trim angle available? I play both SC and DW both with mods. I was playing a mission and I decided (foolishly) to sneak up on a surface ship and TASM the guy to smitherines. Before i could a helo nailed me. I went to a flank bell and clicked on "Go deep". The best down angle i could achieve was 5 degrees down. Why would we not be able to click on the dive planes and adjust them to acheive an appropriate down angle like we can do with rudder? that would be more realism. I recall from the "Usta-fish" days that we pulled 20 degree angles often during angles and dangles. If you need to go deep fast you have to be able to adjust the angle of the boat.

06-22-08, 01:54 PM	#3
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Unfortunately, dive angle is not controllable by us. Our crew handles it completely out of our control. Trust Bernard ! He'll angle that sub perfectly for you every time ! __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

06-22-08, 10:03 PM	#5
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	But you'll make your crew in the mess hall spill their coffee ! __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

06-25-08, 05:11 AM	#8
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	rofl __________________ ComSubSim forum at CADC

06-25-08, 02:28 PM	#10
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Just few more and we have a material for another 'Down periscope' __________________ ComSubSim forum at CADC

06-22-08, 05:09 PM	#4
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks for responses. I read all the "read me" for the mods and did not see anything regarding it either. But for some reason I still want to "click" on the stern and fairwater planes. I just wanna do it!!!

06-24-08, 05:56 PM	#6
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Man, oh man, does that bring back memories. The cooks used to HATE angles and Dangles. No matter how prepared they were, stuff always found a way to go flying. Once some nitwit thought it would be fun to slide all the way down the Ops. middle level deck. this is the longest stretch on the 637 class boats. It runs all the way from the bow compartment to the trash disposal unit. A good 60 foot run or so. So we are pulling an up angle of more than 20 degress and away he goes. He slid so fast and hard that he left a couple of teeth on the TDU. I think he lost a stripe as well after the CO got done with him.

06-24-08, 10:02 PM	#7
Bubblehead Nuke XO Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 435 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	My favorite 'Angle & Dangle' memory: One day, the CO goes down to the mess decks and asks what is for lunch. He got the reply of Corned Beef (or, as we used to call it: 'Baboon Ass'). He told the chief that he specifically stated that he disliked it (I mean he REALLY disliked it) and wanted something different. We was politely told that it was too late to start another meal but they would make sure that it was not served in the future. The CO shrugged and went back up to control. About 20 seconds later the angle starts to come on. Down we go.... 30 degrees.. and the pots are a banging, the cooks are a swearing, and us nukes were smiling (we hated it too). After a few seconds the angle came off and we leveled out. A few seconds later UP we went into a 30 degree up angle. Again, the pots were banging, the cooks were REALLY swearing now, and then the boat levels off. The CO comes down the ladder and asks again what is for lunch. The chief gave a prompt 'cold cut sandwiches and chips'. I can still remember the carnage that was in the galley.

06-25-08, 10:28 AM	#9
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Now that is a Skipper! We had a MSC who decided that rice (Philippino Ice cream) would be seved more often than not. Rice with lunch, rice with dinner and dessert (rice pudding). We were on the verge of mutiny and finally the wardroom got in the act too. It was not that the MSC just liked rice. Our stores load got screwed up and somehow we had 4 times what was ordered and nobody noticed. Our Skip decided it was time to shoot some waterslugs and guess where the rice ended up? "Snapshot Tube four!"

06-25-08, 06:58 PM	#11
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This is the kind of stuff you get at reunions. All the stories and funny stuff comes back into recall. I almost forgot about the one story until we started talking angles and dangles. I was reading some of the stories in the Submarine Almanac (which I enjoyed thoroughly). Maybe one day I will put them on paper and hope people enjoy them too. I often wonder how the crew on the Archerfish managed to become the squadron boat. We were the biggest bunch of party animals and clowns ever to grace a 637 class.

06-25-08, 09:12 PM	#12
Bubblehead Nuke XO Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 435 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	You want to kow how bad this sub thing stays in your blood?? Last week, I was on vacation up in New Hampshire/Maine. As we were coming down US1 we passed by a sub in the ground in Portsmouth, New Hampshire and my kids went nuts. They were asking me if that was the submarine I served on. The boat in question was the USS Albacore and it is a static museum pulled out of the water and set on blocks. I naturally pulled over for the unplanned stop. We walked around and took some pics but my oldest PLEADED to go aboard. I paid the fee and off I go with my 3 young kids. I was out of the Navy before they were born so they never got to see a modern boat. NOTE: To those of you who EVER get a chance, go inside. It might be a diesel, but you will see the design philosophies that were used in the later nuke boats. I mean, it was EERIE going into it. The smells and the sounds. It put me right back into the old days in a heartbeat. Anyway back to the post: I was walking aft and noticed that the ventilation was not right. I mean, there was NO airflow into the engineroom. I looked over in the #2 diesel space and there was a placard on the bulkhead with the rig for surface bill. I looked at it a sec, walked back into the main engineroom, and rigged the space for surface ventilate in about 4 minutes. A lot of the valves are are not locked off and the sub is pretty much left as it was when they yanked it out of the water. A lot of the valves used the same naming nomeclatures that we had in the more modern boats. I then walked forward and rigged each space on the main deck for surface ventilate. There are NO tour guides and over time people naturally moved things that could be moved. The whole boat was in a half ass'd recirculate; rig for surface; rig for snorkel; rig for fire/flooding'. When I was done you could smell the air from the nearby sea and things 'felt right'. I have not rigged a space in YEARS and it all came back to me in a flash. My kids (and a few other people who were also onboard) seemed to be in awe. Here I was reaching up opening and closing main induction valves and dampers like I had been there for years. They could note the change as the air started to flow properly. In the end I had a feeling of satifaction as I walked out of the after hull opening. I am STILL sub qual'd, and better yet, I know it.

06-25-08, 10:31 PM	#13
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	Nice. __________________

06-26-08, 03:45 AM	#14
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I wonder what would make you 'feel right' in torpedo room __________________ ComSubSim forum at CADC

06-26-08, 10:40 AM	#15
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yeah BN, I can relate. In fact i was just reading about the Albacore. Interesting boat. I met up with a few of my crewmates at a reunion. Some of these guys were of the "FTN" mentality while they were in. But now many years later they are going to reunions. It stays in their blood. On occaision I may get asked about my time on the boats and if I could would I do it again. I tell them honestly, "If you gave me a choice of Immeasurable wealth on one hand and on the other, the chance to be on the boats again, I would be reporting for duty in a New York second!"