[WIP]Playable Northampton

The Fishlord · 06-14-08, 10:52 AM

Out of a bit of frustration of no large playable American surface ships, I decided to make one myself. I chose the Northampton/Portland class since the Indianapolis was the first US Navy ship I ever heard of, and it's reasonably big to provide some intense battles.

If any talented modders out there could look at this and help me figure out what's wrong, I'll definetely be indebted to you.

UPDATE: 0.6 Version ready. I linked the 8 inch guns to the Northampton node but it didn't make a difference for me. Maybe it does for you, take a look:

http://files.filefront.com/Playable+.../fileinfo.html

It's JGSME ready, just unzip to your mods folder. W4lter's range fix is already integrated.

peabody · 06-14-08, 11:21 AM

Could you be more specific on "it doesn't work"?

Peabody

The Fishlord · 06-14-08, 12:43 PM

I can click on US Career mode, and I can put in the settings. No trouble there, Northampton Cruiser shows up at Pearl Harbor. But when I click Start then the game crashes. It leads me to believe something is wrong with either the Roster files or the UPCCampaign data, but I've combed that area again and again and I can't find anything out of the ordinary.

Also, I kind of just wanted an opinion from someone who knows better about any files I'm missing or can delete. I'm not sure whether some parts are essential to make it run.

peabody · 06-14-08, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fishlord

I can click on US Career mode, and I can put in the settings. No trouble there, Northampton Cruiser shows up at Pearl Harbor. But when I click Start then the game crashes. It leads me to believe something is wrong with either the Roster files or the UPCCampaign data, but I've combed that area again and again and I can't find anything out of the ordinary.

Also, I kind of just wanted an opinion from someone who knows better about any files I'm missing or can delete. I'm not sure whether some parts are essential to make it run.

I don't think it'sthe Campaign data because it crashes in Single Mission too.

Peabody

peabody · 06-14-08, 01:17 PM

I did a search but couldn't find the post. Somewhere I asked about doing a PT Boat and Xantro told me some stuff that needed to be added and I think he mention at least one torp tube, dive planes, but I don't remember the rest. I thought I saved his response but I can't find it.

Peabody

The Fishlord · 06-14-08, 01:59 PM

Is this it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xantro

You should begin with the AI boat files.
Required for a playable unit are:
-submarine sim file
-submarine torpedo tubes(minimum one)
-submarine cfg file
-submarine upc file
-submarine dive planes
-submainre roster file

when you won't have some things you must set the visibility to 0, do not delete them!

Please read the toutorial for adding playable units

Okay so if this is true I have everything except dive planes (There were torpedo tubes on a Northampton). How can I add them but I guess more importantly, how can I make it so the mighty CA can't dive?

Now I understand why Rene's Yamato had a single torpedo tube...

peabody · 06-14-08, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fishlord

Is this it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xantro

You should begin with the AI boat files.
Required for a playable unit are:
-submarine sim file
-submarine torpedo tubes(minimum one)
-submarine cfg file
-submarine upc file
-submarine dive planes
-submainre roster file

when you won't have some things you must set the visibility to 0, do not delete them!

Please read the toutorial for adding playable units

Okay so if this is true I have everything except dive planes (There were torpedo tubes on a Northampton). How can I add them but I guess more importantly, how can I make it so the mighty CA can't dive?

Now I understand why Rene's Yamato had a single torpedo tube...

Did you read Mikhayl's turorial about making it 'stand alone'? Great place to start.

Peabody

The Fishlord · 06-27-08, 04:58 PM

UPDATE: Work halted since for one I'm in Hawaii with a 56k connection for the next week or so, and two because I'm going to try to put in a playable Huge European Liner to see if everything besides the guns is done correctly. The Liner should be done about a week after I get back if everything goes according to plan.

badaboom · 06-27-08, 05:44 PM

You lucky old seadog you

I was fortunite enough to be in Hawaii this time last year, what a paradise,don't forget[if you can] to see The Bowfin at Pearl

The Fishlord · 06-27-08, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badaboom

You lucky old seadog you

I was fortunite enough to be in Hawaii this time last year, what a paradise,don't forget[if you can] to see The Bowfin at Pearl

Way ahead of ya mate! Been there and done it. The boats always look so small in this game...And I was surprised (though I shouldn't have been) at how realistic SH4's interiors are. I was disgusted that the only torpedoes they displayed were Mk 14's, those are an insult to the sub force :p I'm on Maui right now with my grandmother.

CPT America · 07-10-08, 05:43 PM

Did I see correctly that this mod has been halted?

The Fishlord · 07-11-08, 10:36 AM

Not exactly halted. I'm stuck at the moment (help is appreciated. I'll post my latest version in a minute). Plus I'm working on three ships at once now, hoping that one of the others will help me with this one (Huge European Liner and T3 Tanker + Northampton at the same time).

Xantrokoles · 07-11-08, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fishlord

Not exactly halted. I'm stuck at the moment (help is appreciated. I'll post my latest version in a minute). Plus I'm working on three ships at once now, hoping that one of the others will help me with this one (Huge European Liner and T3 Tanker + Northampton at the same time).

Oh no, not 3 ships at the same time

Force yourself to make one ready. after this you can work on another one.
For the second you have more experience and previous work done

peabody · 07-12-08, 02:06 PM

I have some fixes for you.
I note what I changed so you can look at it for reference.

You did not have any front dive planes. The dive plane Ax is only the connection between the right and left dive planes. Added dive planes to .dat file
The Unit_Submarine was not added right. Fixed
Added the dive plnae to corrected Unit_sub in sim file.

You did not have a Torpedo tube. Need at least one. added in .dat file(basically the doors)
The subtorpedosys in .sim was not connected to the ship with 'parent ID'
Added the tube doors to the wpn_Subtorpedosys in sim.

It now goes into the game without CTD.

Some other things noticed but not fixed:
Your textures are wrong, don't know why.
In your ships .upc you need to get rid of second Deck Gun. Can only have one.
Also get rid of it in the Upgrade Slots section.
Front two guns are missing due (I think) to the two deck guns in .upc.
M01 is there but is a Deck gun, that is what you have it set to in the Upc

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UpgradePackSlot 3]
ID= UpgDeckGun
NameDisplayable= Deck Gun
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=USDeckGunBasic
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkUpgradePackSlots= BowDeckGun, SternDeckGun Get rid of this
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1943-09-01, Upack3in50calDGStern
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault2= 1943-09-02, NULL, Upack3in50calDGBow

It should be set to the one you have in Weapons.upc I think an 8inch Soclu or something like that. Edit: also if you don't want your gun to change, get rid on the ....Default2= and change the date on Default1= so it is there for the whole war.

Basically need work on the upc file , get rid of second Deck gun (and crewmembers for it etc.)and figure out why the textures are wrong and fix the gun problem.

That will get you started anyway. Didn't check everything.

Here is corrected (partially?) .dat and .sim files. Let me know when you get them and I will delete from filefront.

http://files.filefront.com/NSS+North.../fileinfo.html

Peabody

W4lt3r · 07-12-08, 04:54 PM

Took the mod and applied the Xant's patch to it, seemingly the gun error is nicey.. Got on 2nd bow gun the standard sub 3"er, missing the 1st Bow 8" triple cannon... But Stern cannon is there where it is supposed to be though

Well, image works better.

06-14-08, 10:52 AM	#1
The Fishlord Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 185 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Out of a bit of frustration of no large playable American surface ships, I decided to make one myself. I chose the Northampton/Portland class since the Indianapolis was the first US Navy ship I ever heard of, and it's reasonably big to provide some intense battles. If any talented modders out there could look at this and help me figure out what's wrong, I'll definetely be indebted to you. UPDATE: 0.6 Version ready. I linked the 8 inch guns to the Northampton node but it didn't make a difference for me. Maybe it does for you, take a look: http://files.filefront.com/Playable+.../fileinfo.html It's JGSME ready, just unzip to your mods folder. W4lter's range fix is already integrated. Last edited by The Fishlord; 07-19-08 at 11:07 AM.

06-14-08, 11:21 AM	#2
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Could you be more specific on "it doesn't work"? Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

06-14-08, 01:17 PM	#5
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	I did a search but couldn't find the post. Somewhere I asked about doing a PT Boat and Xantro told me some stuff that needed to be added and I think he mention at least one torp tube, dive planes, but I don't remember the rest. I thought I saved his response but I can't find it. Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

06-27-08, 05:44 PM	#9
badaboom Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	You lucky old seadog you I was fortunite enough to be in Hawaii this time last year, what a paradise,don't forget[if you can] to see The Bowfin at Pearl __________________

07-12-08, 02:06 PM	#14
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	I have some fixes for you. I note what I changed so you can look at it for reference. You did not have any front dive planes. The dive plane Ax is only the connection between the right and left dive planes. Added dive planes to .dat file The Unit_Submarine was not added right. Fixed Added the dive plnae to corrected Unit_sub in sim file. You did not have a Torpedo tube. Need at least one. added in .dat file(basically the doors) The subtorpedosys in .sim was not connected to the ship with 'parent ID' Added the tube doors to the wpn_Subtorpedosys in sim. It now goes into the game without CTD. Some other things noticed but not fixed: Your textures are wrong, don't know why. In your ships .upc you need to get rid of second Deck Gun. Can only have one. Also get rid of it in the Upgrade Slots section. Front two guns are missing due (I think) to the two deck guns in .upc. M01 is there but is a Deck gun, that is what you have it set to in the Upc [UserPlayerUnit 1.UpgradePackSlot 3] ID= UpgDeckGun NameDisplayable= Deck Gun Type=NULL AcceptedTypes=USDeckGunBasic UserCustomizable=Yes IDLinkUpgradePackSlots= BowDeckGun, SternDeckGun Get rid of this IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1943-09-01, Upack3in50calDGStern IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault2= 1943-09-02, NULL, Upack3in50calDGBow It should be set to the one you have in Weapons.upc I think an 8inch Soclu or something like that. Edit: also if you don't want your gun to change, get rid on the ....Default2= and change the date on Default1= so it is there for the whole war. Basically need work on the upc file , get rid of second Deck gun (and crewmembers for it etc.)and figure out why the textures are wrong and fix the gun problem. That will get you started anyway. Didn't check everything. Here is corrected (partially?) .dat and .sim files. Let me know when you get them and I will delete from filefront. http://files.filefront.com/NSS+North.../fileinfo.html Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2. Last edited by peabody; 07-12-08 at 03:46 PM.

06-14-08, 12:43 PM	#3
The Fishlord Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 185 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I can click on US Career mode, and I can put in the settings. No trouble there, Northampton Cruiser shows up at Pearl Harbor. But when I click Start then the game crashes. It leads me to believe something is wrong with either the Roster files or the UPCCampaign data, but I've combed that area again and again and I can't find anything out of the ordinary. Also, I kind of just wanted an opinion from someone who knows better about any files I'm missing or can delete. I'm not sure whether some parts are essential to make it run.

06-27-08, 04:58 PM	#8
The Fishlord Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 185 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	UPDATE: Work halted since for one I'm in Hawaii with a 56k connection for the next week or so, and two because I'm going to try to put in a playable Huge European Liner to see if everything besides the guns is done correctly. The Liner should be done about a week after I get back if everything goes according to plan.

07-10-08, 05:43 PM	#11
CPT America Watch Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 20 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did I see correctly that this mod has been halted?

07-11-08, 10:36 AM	#12
The Fishlord Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 185 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Not exactly halted. I'm stuck at the moment (help is appreciated. I'll post my latest version in a minute). Plus I'm working on three ships at once now, hoping that one of the others will help me with this one (Huge European Liner and T3 Tanker + Northampton at the same time).

07-12-08, 04:54 PM	#15
W4lt3r Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 222 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Took the mod and applied the Xant's patch to it, seemingly the gun error is nicey.. Got on 2nd bow gun the standard sub 3"er, missing the 1st Bow 8" triple cannon... But Stern cannon is there where it is supposed to be though Well, image works better.