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Old 06-08-08, 03:52 AM   #1
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Default [REL]HMS subamrine Truant playable mod

HMS Zwaardvisch Class T type 2 submarine - original mesh by JU_88 (GWX 2.0)







Class T submarine :

Displacement
1090 / 1575 BRT
Length
275 feet
Complement
59 men
Armament
1 4" gun
3 MG AA
10 21" torpedo tubes (6 bow, 2 bow external, 2 amidships external firing forward)
16 torpedoes
Max speed
15.25 / 9 knots (surfaced/submerged)
Engines
Diesel / Electric, 2 shafts
Power
2500 / 1450 HP (surfaced/submerged)

Notes on class
The T class were the designed as replacements for the O, P and R class boats. There size (1325 tons) was kept down to allow more hulls to be built within the tonnage restrictions of the London Treaty. In common with the S class boats they had a very powerful torpedo armament, carried all their fuel internally and were constantly being improved throughout the war.

Boats specifically intended for the far east had extra fuel tanks fitted to increase the range. The specifications as given above is for the first group.

The first T class submarine to be completed, HMS Triton had a slightly different displacement; 1095 / 1579 BRT.

At least two boats from the first group,HMS Tigris and HMS Torbay, had an external stern torpedo tube fitted giving them 11 torpedo tubes. They also carried an extra torpedo. Further specifications for the later groups;

2nd Group;
Same as the first group except;
Complement: 61 men
Armament
1 4\" gun
3 MG AA
11 21\" torpedo tubes (6 bow, 2 bow external, 2 amidships external firing aft, 1 stern external)
17 torpedoes

3th Group;
Same as the first group except;
Complement: 61 men
Armament:
1 4\" gun
1 20mm AA
3 MG AA
11 21\" torpedo tubes (6 bow, 2 bow external, 2 amidships external firing aft, 1 stern external)
17 torpedoes

The GFX model suits both the second and third groups, the first one will need 3d modifications to get two more tubes firing forward and to remove the aft tubes.
Due to the actual number of tubes limitation (10 tubes) even if we get all forward tubes (8) working, we'll only get 2 aft tubes with a working TBT (mod version 1.6), version 1.91 of mod has 3 but using the TBT causes CTD, otherwise it works fine.


"
Defense of the Netherlands East Indies – Royal Navy Submarine Actions
HMS submarine Trusty began with 1st War Patrol on February 1st, 1942. Her assigned area was the Gulf of Siam. She damaged a 200t Trawler on the 8th. On April 1st, HMS Truant scored twice on Yae Maru and Shunsei Maru (11,719 tons total) on her 2d patrol. On June 4th Trusty's 3rd patrol scored on Toyohashi Maru (7,031 t), while HMS Truant (4th Patrol) scored on Tamon Maru #1 (3,019 t) on July 3d. On November 18th HMS Trusty on her 7th patrol damaged Columbia Maru (5,617 t). All RN subs were pulled out until March of 1944."




VERSION 1.9.1 AVAILABLE :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/idzdmz2zdzm/v1.9.1_Hr_MS_Zwaardvisch_e.rar

Truant with masts :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tjnnl5...t_-_T_cla1.rar

Truant no masts :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/djjvnv...t_-_T_cla1.rar



Latest version with new conning tower, 10 tubes, and british periscope view and DG :


Version 1.73 released thanks to Peabody's hard work

d/l :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/njdqr1...ant_T_class.7z


British torpedoes for the T-Class boat (included in v 1.73):

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zzqmtqkhojm/US MK 14 II - IJN - British mark VIII.rar

Dazzle paint scheme :

dazzle 1 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/njyey3ix43m/Class T v 1.73 Dazzle 1.7z

dazzle 2.1 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/btjmtmznmmm/Class T v 1.73 Dazzle 2.1.7z





@all : here is the tower view fix, the rest of the stuff will come when it is ready, probably as a whole mod, fixes the views on the tower etc.. :

d/l tower fix (slip in Objects directory of mod) :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ymzng4..._Triton_01.dat



patch :

new bases for Class T subv 1.62.

Read the full description
I added the CLass T boat to all careerstarts and the following flotillas : Brisbane, Australia - 7 missions - Aleutians - 2 missions

d/l :
http://www.filefront.com/11546246/pa..._ver_1.62.rar/

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Old 06-08-08, 03:58 AM   #2
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I'm not sure the game can handle 10 forward-facing tubes...

Anyway, What do you need help with?
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Old 06-08-08, 04:01 AM   #3
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I guess he is needing help to mod the thing into the game. at least i the PocketBB maker managed to put 8 rear facing tubes, so at least 8 to forward is possible on retrospect, but i donno about 10 :hmm:
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info for a 3d mesh, a 3d model, I think it would be nice to have one such sub ingame, I think it has two external forward facing tubes and two external aft facing ones, could we do that ???
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Old 06-08-08, 04:07 AM   #5
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Well, maybe the internal tubes are possible but im 100% sure that the game doesnt and cannot support external tubes.. how those even work, i have no idea. How deep you can launch them from, etc etc...
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The Truant was a Group I T class Submarine, Therefore she had 6 internal forward-facing tubes and 4 external forward-facing tubes, I guess it might be possible

Anyway, Can't be much help with the modelling, Couldn't find any blueprints and my modelling skills suck too much
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I'll check some of my books and if im lucky, i might be able to find proper picture of this I T class submarine, and sometimes they even have the blueprints in them. at least so far i've found Type 2, 7, Gato and Gar class blueprints, although those aren't much help with this.

I'll post on tomorrow if i've found something but i dont dare to promise anything.
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I'll check some of my books and if im lucky, i might be able to find proper picture of this I T class submarine, and sometimes they even have the blueprints in them. at least so far i've found Type 2, 7, Gato and Gar class blueprints, although those aren't much help with this.

I'll post on tomorrow if i've found something but i dont dare to promise anything.
Not I T class, Royal Navy T class Submarine, Group I (The Triton subclass)
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Ah T class, that should help out.. Thought it was some completely different submarine But i'll see what i can find.
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Old 06-08-08, 01:38 PM   #10
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Double post but what the heck.

I checked my books for any info regarding the Royal Navy T class submarines, but i seemingly couldn't find anything regarding this submarine, so i had to turn into my good friend, google. That only provided me with this picture.



At least it has all the things listed but proper picture of the hull itself is missing...

I'll get proper info regarding the sizes of the sub, how big the conning tower was and so on. To make the modeling of the sub easier.
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Found a few pictures for you.



This next one is entitled "launch of an unidentified T class submarine"



this one is a photo of HMS Taciturn (note the three rear external torpedo tubes)



Here's one of HMS Tantalus taken in 1948



Hope these pictures help. I would love to see a T class boat in game.

Most of these pictures came from here: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/6226/
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Old 06-08-08, 05:54 PM   #12
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There is an AI T-class in GWX 2.0 for SH3, it may be possible to make that suitable for SH4.
Introducing a T-class would not only be a great adition for the RN, but also for the RNethN- Hr.Ms. "Zwaardvisch" sank U-168 and the IJN minelayer "Itsukushima" in the Java Sea in October 1944.
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Old 06-09-08, 04:35 AM   #13
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I wanted to mod the K9, and still do btw !, as a gift for Skwasjser, since he's dutch
I didn't know what type of subs the dutch had, surely not T class, so we could sink two ships with one torp ? make a dutch T class ?
Is the ship you refer to the one made by CB :
http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ (english sub, but only conning tower ) ?

I posted a pic of it here :


but I don't know which hull it uses, like the one for his "japsub", which btw looks like the base for Nautilus42 ai jap sub, is different from a typ VII or IX ?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=137725

Then we might already have a working conning tower

in any case,
Could you upload the files so I can downoload them and work on it ?
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The K.IX class was obsolete by the time WW2 started; the only really useful classes were the K.XIV class, O16, O19 and O20, and the O21 class. During the war, two T-class were transferred to the RNethN: Hr.Ms. Zwaardvisch and Hr.Ms. Tijgerhaai. Zwaardvisch saw action in the Far East in 1944-45, but Tijgerhaai was too late to see action- she was proceeding to the Far East when the Emperor signed on the dotted line.
Most numerous was the O21 class, but three were captured by the Germans in May 1940: O25, O26 and O27. Thus, only four saw service with the RNethN during WW2: O21, O22, O23 and O24, O22 being lost in 1940. O19 and O20 were very similar, differing only in their ability to carry 40 mines in addition to the torpedo armament.
The K.XIV class consisted of five subs: K.XIV, K.VX, K.XVI, K.XVII and K.XVIII; O16 was a one-off. Welding was introduced at a fairly early stage, the percentage of the welding in the structure being increased with each successive class- O.16 was 49% welded.
Originally, submarines were built for either service in European waters or service in the NEI, the former receiving the prefix "O" (for "Onderzeeboot" or submarine) followed by an Arabic number and the latter the prefix "K" (for "Koloniën" or Colonies) followed by a Roman number. Eventually this distinction was abandoned and K.XIX and K.XX were renamed O19 and O20 while building. O19 and O20 were the world's first submarines to enter service with a "snuiver", this device also being fitted to the succeeding O21 class . Later this became famous as "Schnorchel", "snorkel" or "snort". Best would be to model either the K.XIV class, O19 class or O21 class- I have few drawings of the O19 and O21 which I can scan for you.
The "T" class I referred to was specially modelled for SH3 by the GWX team and is a FULL model, not just the conning tower. I;ll post the files on my Filefront page and PM you when done.
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File uploaded to my Filefront page!
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