Stupidity

[Skybird]

http://www.carbonbelchday.com/

Forgive the aggressive title, but what else to say about this non-brainer? This stunt really does not motivate not to start a rant on America. I know that it is only a part of the population, nevertheless the ammount of stupidity and unscrupellousness in this campaign is breathtaking. If the european discussion on energy saving light bulbs I see as hysteric and hectic actionism missing the centre of the problem, then this Belch Day is straightout braindead, and compares to the last uncontrolled convulsions of a dead body whose head has been cut off, while the dead face is still grinning.

Why I said unscrupellousness? Because by random chance, and no intention of course, it is taking place at the same day congress will have a main debate about the Climate Security Act.

Once again lobbies and brutal egoists who do not mind for a world and generations that need to live on after they themselves have died, have flexed their muscles and spend a lot of money to start a campaign to influence public opinion and people's minds. As the president of this campaign put it: in order to free their minds from the guilt Al Gore tried to harass their lives with.

Well, that Al Gore is an evil wacko, as we all know, right!? Compared to him, George Bush is a saint.

Kierkegaard once wrote: "It happened that a fire broke out backstage at a theater. The clown came out to inform the public. They thought it was just a jest and applauded. He repeated his warning, they shouted even louder. So I think the world will come to an end amid general applause from all the wits, who believe that it is a joke.” - CO2 Belch Day, and the way climate debates are being distorted, are perfect illustrations for how damn right Kierkegaard was.

I think stupidity is a highly infectous desease, and patients should be put under strict quarantine.

[Platapus]

First of all, the word is unscrupulous.

Second Grassfire.org is an internet based "petition" site that most people rightfully have never heard of. They are stationed out of Chesapeake, VA. They have been active for less than six years.

Third, clearly the Carbon Belch Day is meant as a satire with the covert intent to collect your name and address for the Grassfire mailing list. No intelligent person reading the Carbon Belch Day pages would ever confuse this with anything legitimate.

Must be a slow news day for this to get any attention

[Skybird]

A satire only, you say? They claim to have collected 100.000 signatures so far (they claim) - in a shorter ammount of time than Al Gore collected a comparable ammount of signatures for some other counter-petition on the issue that he had started. I was aware of grassfire.org, and checked them out before posting (small print on the Belch Day site, at the bottom), it gave me a very bad impression of them. However, I fail to see this Belch Day being satire only. Somebody meant it serious, I think, and tries to twist some minds.

I stumbled of grassire twice of three times before, to, so I suppose the site is not so totally unknown at all, but is embedded into a greater context of politcal camp fights and agendas.

[August]

Some people wouldn't know satire if it hit them over the head with a 2x4. I'm just sayin'...

[Platapus]

And what would 100,000 internet "signatures" do?

Those and $5.00 may get you a starbucks.

I follow political issues and polls pretty closely. None of them has ever used Grassfire.org as a source nor would I imagine they would.

They could get 100,000,000 internet "signatures" and it still would not mean much.

I really can't see any Senator changing the way he or she will vote based on what Grassfire.org says.

They simply are not that important.

[Ducimus]

I saw it on the internet, so it must be true.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by August

Some people wouldn't know satire if it hit them over the head with a 2x4. I'm just sayin'...

Hahahahahaha! Now that was funny! I concur August!

-S

[FIREWALL]

Let me clarify.

It was the title not, the content.

[Letum]

http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com/

[Ducimus]

Nice rickroll, you got me. :rotfl:

[Skybird]

I knew that a certain gang around would take the title queer, but that it now is the only thing being discussed here is something that I take queer now.

Take note that I relativised the title already in the first and third sentence of my posting. And if you are in support of this Belchday, I fully stand to that title nevertheless. becasue it IS a stupid thing - and not only provokes but makes mockery of other people not agreeing with the thinking and policy behind it.

that the title discussion dominates over discussing the issue - which is an offense of healthy reason, and the people being adressed - I consider to be a queer order of priorities. Like some people also seem to reject environmental protection for only a principle reason to never do what others "have told them to do".

So I feel somewhat happy that I was away all day and night and missed how this "discussion" unfolded. If it would have been a title like "Stupidity made in the EU" - which I repeatedly indicated in other threads, too - probably nobody here would complain.

[August]

I object to the title of this thread, to the insulting content in the opening post and to the thread starters never ending habit of seeking out any and all opportunities to denigrate my country.

[NEON DEON]

A while back I asked if we could sticky a bash America thread. That way eveyone could take pot shots at the USA in one confined space instead of all over the forum.

But Noooooooo! Americans have to get it in multiple threads.

So maybe US Americans should just start a bash everyone else in the World thread?

[bradclark1]

I just wanted to be the 32nd comment on a thread that has yet to go beyond the title.