current battleships

d5j55 · 05-17-08, 01:04 PM

does anyone use battleships any more because all that i hear about are destroyers?

Raptor1 · 05-17-08, 01:06 PM

The last Battleships were decomissioned in 2006 (The Iowa-class Battleships USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin), Even then, they were kept as shore-bombardement platforms not as ships designed to fight other ships, the era of the Battleship ended after WWII

The largest surface ships today are the Kirov-class Battlecruisers I believe...

d5j55 · 05-17-08, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

The last Battleships were decomissioned in 2006 (The Iowa-class Battleships USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin), Even then, they were kept as shore-bombardement platforms not as ships designed to fight other ships, the era of the Battleship ended after WWII

The largest surface ships today are the Kirov-class Battlecruisers I believe...

oh ok

Jimbuna · 05-17-08, 03:51 PM

Have a look here:

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/gun_ship.htm

Polak · 05-17-08, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

The last Battleships were decomissioned in 2006 (The Iowa-class Battleships USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin), Even then, they were kept as shore-bombardement platforms not as ships designed to fight other ships, the era of the Battleship ended after WWII

The largest surface ships today are the Kirov-class Battlecruisers I believe...

Too bad that the Kirov-class Battlecruisers will go out of service soon, it is so nice with big ships.

PeriscopeDepth · 05-17-08, 05:23 PM

Battleships aren't really needed anymore. The current premier weapon is tubed VLS rounds, and that can fit on a ship of any size. Though bigger certainly gives you more rounds.

PD

AntEater · 05-17-08, 05:33 PM

Actually the Kirov "Battlecruiser" is a misnomer.
I suppose it is a leftover from Reagan era "evil empire" rhetoric. If the soviet union had "Battlecruisers", the US Navy had to recomission its battleships.
The russians always called them "large missile cruisers".
They are twice as large as the largest US missile cruisers, though the last heavy gun cruisers like USS Salem are similar in size. They're just huge nuclear powered guided missile cruisers and incidentially the first really large ships to feature VLS launchers.
And they won't be out of service anytime soon. Petr Velikij is in service and Admiral Nachimov returned to service in 2005. So 2 of 4 are in service.

bookworm_020 · 05-18-08, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

Actually the Kirov "Battlecruiser" is a misnomer.
I suppose it is a leftover from Reagan era "evil empire" rhetoric. If the soviet union had "Battlecruisers", the US Navy had to recomission its battleships.
The russians always called them "large missile cruisers".
They are twice as large as the largest US missile cruisers, though the last heavy gun cruisers like USS Salem are similar in size. They're just huge nuclear powered guided missile cruisers and incidentially the first really large ships to feature VLS launchers.
And they won't be out of service anytime soon. Petr Velikij is in service and Admiral Nachimov returned to service in 2005. So 2 of 4 are in service.

Correct!

They were given the term battle cruiser because they were larger that the standard cruiser of the day, and it was an easy way for the U.S. Navy to get funding to get them going again.

I remember seeing one of the Iowa's (The Mighty Mo I think?:hmm

when see visted Australia in 1988. An impressive ship!

Jacky Fisher · 05-20-08, 07:50 PM

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it is so nice with big ships

If you want a floating gas guzzler with a sign that says 'SINK ME' hung from its conning tower.

The Pyotr Velikiy was only commishinied about 8 years ago...

Jimbuna · 05-21-08, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacky Fisher

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it is so nice with big ships

If you want a floating gas guzzler with a sign that says 'SINK ME' hung from its conning tower.

The Pyotr Velikiy was only commishinied about 8 years ago...

A nice looking ship though

Tchocky · 05-21-08, 06:54 AM

I think they're beautiful ships.
I mean, aesthetics really shouldn't come into warship design, but sometimes it works

Jacky Fisher · 05-21-08, 02:46 PM

they do have very clean lines, I'll give them that.

Jimbuna · 05-21-08, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

I think they're beautiful ships.
I mean, aesthetics really shouldn't come into warship design, but sometimes it works

Yeah, I agree. It's just a pity they're such a flop.

05-17-08, 01:04 PM	#1
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Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The last Battleships were decomissioned in 2006 (The Iowa-class Battleships USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin), Even then, they were kept as shore-bombardement platforms not as ships designed to fight other ships, the era of the Battleship ended after WWII The largest surface ships today are the Kirov-class Battlecruisers I believe... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

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AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Actually the Kirov "Battlecruiser" is a misnomer. I suppose it is a leftover from Reagan era "evil empire" rhetoric. If the soviet union had "Battlecruisers", the US Navy had to recomission its battleships. The russians always called them "large missile cruisers". They are twice as large as the largest US missile cruisers, though the last heavy gun cruisers like USS Salem are similar in size. They're just huge nuclear powered guided missile cruisers and incidentially the first really large ships to feature VLS launchers. And they won't be out of service anytime soon. Petr Velikij is in service and Admiral Nachimov returned to service in 2005. So 2 of 4 are in service. __________________

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I think they're beautiful ships. I mean, aesthetics really shouldn't come into warship design, but sometimes it works __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Battleships aren't really needed anymore. The current premier weapon is tubed VLS rounds, and that can fit on a ship of any size. Though bigger certainly gives you more rounds. PD

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Jacky Fisher Loader Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the bridge of the Dreadnought Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	they do have very clean lines, I'll give them that. __________________