Ships without flags?

[onelifecrisis]

I'm frequently spotting allied merchants which don't have any flag at all. Has SH3 always been like that and I only just noticed? Is it a bug? Is it some historically accurate feature of SH3 or GWX?

I know they're allied (at least, the ones I've seen so far) because I tend to find them in allied/British convoys and when I sink them they show up as allied tonnage sunk. The last one was a Medium Cargo.

Any info would be great.

[Jimbuna]

What mod are you using OLC ?

GWX I'm presuming.

Could you post a screenshot because there are a few additional imports out there at the moment.

I've only had this experience once and it was an imported model.....I just don't recall which one.

[jpm1]

when you have several mods (or supermods) installed that can happen , the flags are in the flags.dat file if you have imported a country for example Czechia from WAC and your flags.dat file's GWX 2 one the ships from Czechia won't have flags there isn't that country in GWX 2

[onelifecrisis]

Hi Jim,

All I'm running is GWX 2.1 (with the Minor Fixes released by BBW) plus my Ubermod, which basically has new scene.dat, envcolour.dat(s), skycolour.dat(s) files, plus tiny tweaks to the GWX 2.1 materials.dat and particles.dat files, and of course my GUI. That's it - no ships added or modded.

Here's a Medium Cargo with no flag. Would have been better if I had snapped the shot quicker (while the eventcam was to the side of the ship) but you can see even in this shot that the flag is missing. For comparison, there's a museum shot of the same ship (with a flag) below it.

[Jimbuna]

I've tried to replicate your prob (in museum and on patrol) thus far without any success.

Have you the 'community ships' mod enabled as well as the 'AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix' ?

If so, the community ships must be enabled with JSGME after the AOTD mod.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I've tried to replicate your prob (in museum and on patrol) thus far without any success.

Have you the 'community ships' mod enabled as well as the 'AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix' ?

If so, the community ships must be enabled with JSGME after the AOTD mod.

I've never heard of either of them!
I don't get the problem in the Museum i.e. every ship I've looked at in the Museum has a flag.
As I said, I have no ship mods enabled. Here's my JSGME:

[Jimbuna]

I'm sorry mate, I just can't understand it.

I'm just not getting the same fault

I'm just wondering if it's something to do with either your mod or the small fix :hmm:

Here's my setup.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm sorry mate, I just can't understand it.

I'm just not getting the same fault

I'm just wondering if it's something to do with either your mod or the small fix :hmm:

Here's my setup.

I don't see how my changes can affect flags at all. :hmm:
Scene and colour files certainly have no effect at all on whether or not flags appear.
My changes to the other GWX 2.1 files (in the Ubermod) simply involved changing the 'GlobalColorScale' of a lot of bitmap particle generators - I don't see how that can affect flags either. :hmm:
Regardless, thanks anyway for looking into it.

What CAN affect flags is haveing any tga's bearing the same name as existing
flag name tga's.
Also ID conflicts could raise the same issue.

As We all keep throwing more and more at the SH3 Engine?
It's getting picker and picker.

In GWX 2.0 Aircraft we saw pilots and crew vanishing!!

We found that renameing ALL tga's AND the final name assigned solved this.
So your tga may be called whosit.tga but the final name is Default!

Change both!
I rename everything now.

May not be your problem but it's good info!!

[PirateKaluen]

So after before i really modded the game a bunch, (i just played sh3 with GWX3.0 thats it) the flags were all there and everything was handy dandy, but after installing the V1.6b patch by h.sie im not sure but maybe that was what removed all my flags. warships AND merchants dont have flags, only small mortor boat/fishing trawlers and some sail boats have flags.. heres my mod soup if that helps

GWX-ENglish Nav map and grid refs
GWX-Enhanced damage effects
GWX-16km atmosphere
supplement to V16B1(Jsgme)
tychoSh3Patch_V3
ARB WdeGui 1920x1080
ARBwide Gui 1920X1080v3.1
adaptation for English and Deutch
O2-Guages v2
TKSS18 Geran Uboats complation
FixAllSubGWX

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by PirateKaluen

So after before i really modded the game a bunch, (i just played sh3 with GWX3.0 thats it) the flags were all there and everything was handy dandy, but after installing the V1.6b patch by h.sie im not sure but maybe that was what removed all my flags. warships AND merchants dont have flags, only small mortor boat/fishing trawlers and some sail boats have flags.. heres my mod soup if that helps

GWX-ENglish Nav map and grid refs
GWX-Enhanced damage effects
GWX-16km atmosphere
supplement to V16B1(Jsgme)
tychoSh3Patch_V3
ARB WdeGui 1920x1080
ARBwide Gui 1920X1080v3.1
adaptation for English and Deutch
O2-Guages v2
TKSS18 Geran Uboats complation
FixAllSubGWX

That’s not the Hsie patch the culprit. That’s TKSS18 German UBoat Compilation
Open it and delete Flags.dat (in Library folder) Then reactivate it you will bring back your flags.

[Pisces]

Before he messes up his install and mod-backups:

1: In JSGME uninstall the last two mods (upto and including TKSS18 Geran Uboats complation)
2: Remove said file from the SH3Homefolder\MODS\TKSS18_something_mod\Data\Libra ry folder
3: Re-enable those last 2 mods in JSGME

[PirateKaluen]

yeah i actually solved it a bit after posting to this thread, thankyou guys for responding though and fair seas!

[Doolar]

hey PirateKaluen, sorry i missed your PM. Just got home from the Beach. Glad you got it straitened out.

[PirateKaluen]

yeah i was stalking a convoy at night in rough seas and i didnt even try to identify the ships nationality with the scope so i just used the external cam, to see ships sailing without any flags at all... i mean they were all darkened anyway but i like double checking things.