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Old 04-26-08, 09:43 PM   #1
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Default [REQ] Playable Flottenbegleiter Class DE

After reviewing the playable S-Boot mod, I was thinking that probably one of the limiting factors preventing the creation of playable destroyers and BBs is the sheer number of guns, and the ability to crew the weapons.

I looked through the museum, and the German Flottenbegleiter class escort seems to have a managable number of AA and deck guns.

I was wondering what the possibility of creating a playable Flottenbegleiter class would be? i would think you would need about 7 crewmen for engine rooms, 6 crewmen for the command room, 4 crewmen for a 'watch crew', 1 radio operator, perhaps as many as 6 AA gunners and perhaps only 9 to 12 deck gunners.

this translates to about the same number of crew aboard either a VIIX or an IXB etc.

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Old 04-26-08, 09:51 PM   #2
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The Bridge would be the 'command room', and you would need the Officer Of the Deck, a Helmsman, a Lee Helmsman (manning the signal telegraph), and that's about it. The lookouts would be visible on the bridge wings. The radio room would be behind the bridge somewhere, or even down in the hull, so unless you had a way to walk there you wouldn't need it; only a crewman to deliver messages.

One gunner for each AA gun, and a 3-to-6-man crew for each gun (only on submarines were they called deck guns).

Probably less crew visible than in the u-boats.

Bigger destroyers would actually be easier, because the guns are in enclosed turrets, so unless you wanted a view inside the turret there would be no gun crew.
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Old 04-27-08, 01:07 PM   #3
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The escort vessels (in German called "Flottenbegleiter") F1 - F10 could be described with a single word: Failure.
In the early 1930s the group of ten escort vessels was build. Since those ships should not only have used as fast escort ships but also as fast mine-sweepers, submarine hunter and test beds for the new high-pressure destroyer engines, too much was out into this small design.
The result was a very bad designed ship with a totally unreliable engine system that spend long times in shipyards for repair. As a result, the Flottenbegleiter were almost never seen in operational action and were transferred for several different secondary tasks. Some were used as fleet tenders, some for training Uboat crews.
As the number of engine breakdowns increased to not tolerable level in the later years of the war, the ships were taken out of action. Only one of them, the F9 , was lost through enemy actions, when it was hit by an torpedo of the British submarine Ursula in December 1939 and sunk within 3 minutes.
http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmari...ter/index.html

Type 34 would be better
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Old 04-27-08, 01:58 PM   #4
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really... any surface ship with some serious guns
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