U-534 Sliced open with giant cheese wire!

waldopbarnstormer · 04-10-08, 04:18 AM

Here is a link I found to an article in my local newspaper. It regards U-534 which has been bought by Mersey ferries and is now on display to the public.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-20633118/

I thought people would find this interesting, and it would be a great chance to take a look inside a real WW2 sub.

M. Sarsfield · 04-10-08, 07:33 AM

I'm more interesting in all of the artifacts that they recovered from inside.

jdkbph · 04-10-08, 09:15 AM

I dunno.... just seems like such a damned shame to cut up. I wonder if 100 or more years from now people will be looking at this piece of history beyond living memory and wondering what the hell we were thinking.

JD

M. Sarsfield · 04-10-08, 09:27 AM

In the video on the website they said that they couldn't afford the cost of moving it in one piece. It wasn't sea worthy.

Quillan · 04-10-08, 09:57 AM

I've seen pictures of it when it was at Birkenhead. It wasn't really restored; the outer hull was still rusted and holed. I imagine moving it in one piece would have been extremely difficult.

http://uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=U534B

M. Sarsfield · 04-10-08, 09:58 AM

They had to put the Batfish on several barges to move it up the Arkansas River to its current berth. The boat is still able to float, though. Back in 1973 I think it took about $500,000 to pull that off. I can imagine the price today.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 04-10-08, 10:50 AM

What a shame. It's like that B-17 found in the Northern Range here on the island. It crashed and was never found during the war. Recently someone discovered the wreck and the its occupants including crew id which were conveyed to their families back in the states. They left the wreck there unable to move it. Besides tropical decay would've made it impossible anyway. I know there must be some u-boat wrecks off our coasts, just to find them.

-Pv- · 04-10-08, 07:35 PM

At least one U-boat wreck was found in the last couple years off the US East coast. German records indicates it should have been thousands of miles away from where it was found.
-Pv-

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 07:46 PM

After crowds slow down and the novelity wears off and it cost more to keep the exibit up than their bringing in it will go to the highest bidder for scrap.

Ducimus · 04-10-08, 09:08 PM

If it wasnt a rusted wreck dredged up off the sea floor id be more concerned over it. U-534 really is inconsequential when you consider another sub of its type is intact, in "cherry" condition, and is entombed in a concrete shelter where the elements can do no damage to it.

If i had more of a vested interest, id be more concerned about U-995 and why its still outside and exposed to the elements.

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

If it wasnt a rusted wreck dredged up off the sea floor id be more concerned over it. U-534 really is inconsequential when you consider another sub of its type is intact, in "cherry" condition, and is entombed in a concrete shelter where the elements can do no damage to it.

If i had more of a vested interest, id be more concerned about U-995 and why its still outside and exposed to the elements.

I couldn't have said it better.

Graf Paper · 04-10-08, 09:48 PM

Speaking of U-505, am I right in the thought that the recently completed restoration makes this XIC boat more or less in mint condition and she's as new and seaworthy as the day she slipped out of drydock?

My sister visited U-505 before it was moved to the new bunker and took several photographs. I've told her to send me copies or face her fate.

I ain't decided what that is, yet, but it probably involves a pool, R/C u-boat, and her with a smokestack strapped to her back.

Does anyone know where I can get 1/144 scale live torpedo warheads?

Ducimus · 04-10-08, 10:01 PM

>>she's as new and seaworthy as the day she slipped out of drydock?

No. Only shes in very good condition. Seaworthy? Hell no.

At any rate, like i said, if i was a diehard uboat fan, id be more concerned about U-995.

The 7th and 8th picture from the bottom at this URL:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08228.htm

Is what happends when you leave your WW2 submarines laying around outside with poor maintenance and upkeep.

seaniam81 · 04-11-08, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

>>she's as new and seaworthy as the day she slipped out of drydock?

No. Only shes in very good condition. Seaworthy? Hell no.

At any rate, like i said, if i was a diehard uboat fan, id be more concerned about U-995.

The 7th and 8th picture from the bottom at this URL:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08228.htm

Is what happends when you leave your WW2 submarines laying around outside with poor maintenance and upkeep.

Thats a sad sight to see.

gumbeau · 04-11-08, 07:09 AM

What is sad is the major reason they cut it up is a disability discrimination law would have prevented anyone from viewing the inside of the U-Boat because it could not be brought into compliance with the law. So all are denied because a few cannot be accomodated.

Sad and Silly

04-10-08, 04:18 AM	#1
waldopbarnstormer Watch Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	U-534 Sliced open with giant cheese wire! Here is a link I found to an article in my local newspaper. It regards U-534 which has been bought by Mersey ferries and is now on display to the public. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-20633118/ I thought people would find this interesting, and it would be a great chance to take a look inside a real WW2 sub.

04-10-08, 07:33 AM	#2
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm more interesting in all of the artifacts that they recovered from inside. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

04-10-08, 09:27 AM	#4
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In the video on the website they said that they couldn't afford the cost of moving it in one piece. It wasn't sea worthy. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

04-10-08, 09:57 AM	#5
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I've seen pictures of it when it was at Birkenhead. It wasn't really restored; the outer hull was still rusted and holed. I imagine moving it in one piece would have been extremely difficult. http://uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=U534B __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-10-08, 09:58 AM	#6
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They had to put the Batfish on several barges to move it up the Arkansas River to its current berth. The boat is still able to float, though. Back in 1973 I think it took about $500,000 to pull that off. I can imagine the price today. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

04-10-08, 09:15 AM	#3
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	I dunno.... just seems like such a damned shame to cut up. I wonder if 100 or more years from now people will be looking at this piece of history beyond living memory and wondering what the hell we were thinking. JD

04-10-08, 10:50 AM	#7
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	What a shame. It's like that B-17 found in the Northern Range here on the island. It crashed and was never found during the war. Recently someone discovered the wreck and the its occupants including crew id which were conveyed to their families back in the states. They left the wreck there unable to move it. Besides tropical decay would've made it impossible anyway. I know there must be some u-boat wrecks off our coasts, just to find them. __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

04-10-08, 07:35 PM	#8
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	At least one U-boat wreck was found in the last couple years off the US East coast. German records indicates it should have been thousands of miles away from where it was found. -Pv-

04-10-08, 07:46 PM	#9
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	After crowds slow down and the novelity wears off and it cost more to keep the exibit up than their bringing in it will go to the highest bidder for scrap. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-10-08, 09:08 PM	#10
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	If it wasnt a rusted wreck dredged up off the sea floor id be more concerned over it. U-534 really is inconsequential when you consider another sub of its type is intact, in "cherry" condition, and is entombed in a concrete shelter where the elements can do no damage to it. If i had more of a vested interest, id be more concerned about U-995 and why its still outside and exposed to the elements.

04-10-08, 09:48 PM	#12
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Speaking of U-505, am I right in the thought that the recently completed restoration makes this XIC boat more or less in mint condition and she's as new and seaworthy as the day she slipped out of drydock? My sister visited U-505 before it was moved to the new bunker and took several photographs. I've told her to send me copies or face her fate. I ain't decided what that is, yet, but it probably involves a pool, R/C u-boat, and her with a smokestack strapped to her back. Does anyone know where I can get 1/144 scale live torpedo warheads? __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

04-10-08, 10:01 PM	#13
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>she's as new and seaworthy as the day she slipped out of drydock? No. Only shes in very good condition. Seaworthy? Hell no. At any rate, like i said, if i was a diehard uboat fan, id be more concerned about U-995. The 7th and 8th picture from the bottom at this URL: http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08228.htm Is what happends when you leave your WW2 submarines laying around outside with poor maintenance and upkeep.

04-11-08, 07:09 AM	#15
gumbeau Watch Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	What is sad is the major reason they cut it up is a disability discrimination law would have prevented anyone from viewing the inside of the U-Boat because it could not be brought into compliance with the law. So all are denied because a few cannot be accomodated. Sad and Silly