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Old 04-01-08, 11:35 PM   #1
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Default What about made concrete ships?

What about made concrete ships for game?
http://www.infoflotforum.ru/index.ph...ic=19164&st=15

Site in russian, but have photo american concrete cargo ship second world war.
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Old 04-01-08, 11:43 PM   #2
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I have heard about those. Thanks for the pictures. They look like concrete to me.
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Old 04-02-08, 12:16 AM   #3
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:hmm: I can't believe someone made ships out of cement? I don't know denis. Sound interesting. Maybe use them ask wrecks near harbours or city bays? Anyhow its your call dude.
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Old 04-02-08, 12:18 AM   #4
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I've heard of them too.
It always amazes me that they could float.

I've also seen a 50' sailboat made of concrete.

Wonder if you could make a submarine .
At the least, it could dive fast. :p
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Old 04-02-08, 12:19 AM   #5
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:hmm: I can't believe someone made ships out of cement? I don't know denis. Sound interesting. Maybe use them ask wrecks near harbours or city bays? Anyhow its your call dude.
It's ships was building during WWII as cargo ships in USA. As normal cargo ships. Not wrecks.

Text in russian:
"В США во время ВМВ строились бетонные МОРСКИЕ суда длиною до 128 м, D в полном грузу 13000 тонн (и сухогруз и танкер) скорость хода до 10,5 уз, по существу Т-3 в бетоне, применялся также и керамзитобетон.
для эксплуатации в Мексиканском заливе были построены самоходные суда, в/м=10950, дейдвейт 5560 тонн, ход до 10 уз, построено после строгих испытаний еще 103 судна. "

In english (sorry with my english):
"In USA during WWII buildings concrete Sea ships lenght until 128 meters, D in full loading 13000 tons (and cargo ship and tanker) speed 10,5 knots, in other words T-3 in concrete.
For Mexican Gulf was building selfspeed ships measurement 10950 tons, deadweight 5560 tons, speed 10 knots, building ... 103 ships."
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Old 04-02-08, 01:38 AM   #6
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:hmm: I can't believe someone made ships out of cement? I don't know denis. Sound interesting. Maybe use them ask wrecks near harbours or city bays? Anyhow its your call dude.
It's ships was building during WWII as cargo ships in USA. As normal cargo ships. Not wrecks.

I wasn't trying to insult your idea denis. I'm still shocked over the fact that cement can float. You should make a poll and see what the masses want? You might be on to something cool.
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Old 04-02-08, 02:41 AM   #7
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On pic is concrete USS Talbot:


The bunch of info about concrete ships of WW2 here: http://www.concreteships.org/ships/ww2/ I think its a good basis for new mod for SH3:hmm:
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Old 04-02-08, 02:52 AM   #8
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I would be really pissed if I crept into a enemy port and let rip with 4 eels to find out they were cement

Thanks for sharing, will have to make sure these bad boys don't appear in the game, for our sake anyway
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Old 04-02-08, 02:57 AM   #9
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Why is everyone so surprised a ship made out of concrete would be able to float?

Last time I checked, steel isn't all that buoyant, either. Drop a crowbar into a pool and see what I mean.

The material used to make the hull has nothing to do with whether it floats or sinks. It's how much water is displaced by the volume of the ships hull. If the amount of water displaced is greater in weight than the weight of the ship, that ship will float.

Heck, back in WWII, the Royal Navy wanted to make supply ships and aircraft carriers out of icebergs!
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Heck, back in WWII, the Royal Navy wanted to make supply ships and aircraft carriers out of icebergs!
Thats a great idea. Just think of all the ice I could use to fill my glass of rum
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Old 04-02-08, 03:04 AM   #11
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Why is everyone so surprised a ship made out of concrete would be able to float?
I'm not.......What I'm pissed about; is wasting valuable torpedos on what I thought were prized targets and to later find out I was deceived by the enemy. Good deception on there behalf

How foolish would you feel returning back to port ...ooh; how the jokes would start at the Officers Mess
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Old 04-02-08, 07:44 AM   #12
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Why is everyone so surprised a ship made out of concrete would be able to float?

Last time I checked, steel isn't all that buoyant, either. Drop a crowbar into a pool and see what I mean.

The material used to make the hull has nothing to do with whether it floats or sinks. It's how much water is displaced by the volume of the ships hull. If the amount of water displaced is greater in weight than the weight of the ship, that ship will float.

Heck, back in WWII, the Royal Navy wanted to make supply ships and aircraft carriers out of icebergs!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk
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Old 04-02-08, 07:45 AM   #13
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Why is everyone so surprised a ship made out of concrete would be able to float?
I'm not.......What I'm pissed about; is wasting valuable torpedos on what I thought were prized targets and to later find out I was deceived by the enemy. Good deception on there behalf

How foolish would you feel returning back to port ...ooh; how the jokes would start at the Officers Mess
"torpedoed a rock" :rotfl:
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Old 04-02-08, 07:55 AM   #14
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Heres the pic of concrete floating dock:

Technical characteristics:

carrying capacity - 4500t
length - 102 m
width - 29,2

Exotic!:rotfl:
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Old 04-02-08, 09:02 AM   #15
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Wow! never thought this is possible.
Well you can never stop learning new things.
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