Women? On nuclear subs?

Onkel Neal · 03-31-08, 09:57 PM

I guess this was bound to happen.

US Navy Mans Two Nuclear Subs with Women

nikimcbee · 03-31-08, 10:07 PM

A distracted crew is a dead crew, it's just a matter of time. From all of the Navy stories I've heard of mixed crew ships, they were constantly sending pregnant women home, who got pregnant onboard. I'm glad everybody is focused.

Wreford-Brown · 03-31-08, 10:23 PM

Mixed crews have been used in the Royal Navy for a fairly long time. There have been a few instances such as the one nikimcbee describes, but that's because 'another pregnant sailor' gets more headlines than 'females on board ships are actually quite good at the job'.
If they are as good as their male counterparts, and discounting the few bad headline grabbers, why shouldn't females be allowed on board ship?

nikimcbee · 03-31-08, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

Mixed crews have been used in the Royal Navy for a fairly long time. There have been a few instances such as the one nikimcbee describes, but that's because 'another pregnant sailor' gets more headlines than 'females on board ships are actually quite good at the job'.
If they are as good as their male counterparts, and discounting the few bad headline grabbers, why shouldn't females be allowed on board ship?

It just seems like it would be a major distraction. I see the whole thing as a political agenda that's being forced down our throats( no pun intended.:rotfl:

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Wreford-Brown · 03-31-08, 10:45 PM

I'm a ground pounder and in a trade where no females are allowed. We still get the odd female clerk or mechanic who volunteer to go with us so they can search other females, but they are few and far between. They share the same risks we do and get injured and killed the same way we do, plus they are all volunteers - no politician can force them to leave the camp gates.

You can't afford distractions and they've proven themselves time and again.
I'm definitely pro-female - some of them have got more guts than some of the guys I've worked with.

Sailor Steve · 03-31-08, 11:13 PM

I hate you. I also deleted my all-too serious reply, which I never do.

Color me

:rotfl:

CptGrayWolf · 03-31-08, 11:18 PM

Hey Sailor Steve what happened!? I was just going to answer your old men, young men war theory! :p
Women on subs... is it really a distraction? I'd like to think we are more sophisticated then that. Then again, it is young men and young women... :hmm:

Wreford-Brown · 03-31-08, 11:34 PM

They are great eye-candy, the problem comes when they get too familiar.
We had one sent home for being too free with her affections - the comment was: 'I'm all for morale, but eventually she'll destroy the morale of this unit'.

I'm not going back on my previous comments - she was one bad apple among a number of great female soldiers.

Vacillator · 04-01-08, 03:23 AM

Quoting from the linked article:

"the Navy plans to get women into submarines and avoid mixing with seamen by making two US Virginia class subs consist of all-female crew and officers"

so there shouldn't be too much distraction of the mixed sex variety.

danlisa · 04-01-08, 03:48 AM

Slow this morning, aren't we.

rod_oil · 04-01-08, 03:53 AM

USS "Lez" ready to depart, sir!:rotfl: USS "Pregnancy" succeful arrive at homebase!

Which submarine will serve better well see after USS "Lez" return back!:rotfl:

flakmonkey · 04-01-08, 04:09 AM

Whats next, women being allowed to vote!?!

Seriously whats all the fuss about, its 2008 people! This should have happened at least 20 years ago!

Any sailor that can`t prioritise between Launch Nuclear Warhead or Stare At Boobies really shouldnt be in the navy to begin with.

Uncle Goose · 04-01-08, 04:19 AM

I highly doubt any women would have wanted to serve on a U-boat, the lack of sanitation would have scared off any woman wanted to serve on it. nowaydays subs have showers.

Penelope_Grey · 04-01-08, 05:31 AM

Alright, which three chauvenist pigs voted for " Women should stay home and make cookies"?

SmokinTep · 04-01-08, 05:35 AM

I can't believe we are going to waste 2 Virginia class subs on some women. Why not give em a couple of 688's.

View Poll Results: Should women be on subs?
Mixed crew, men and women	37	43.02%
All female subs	18	20.93%
Women should stay home and make cookies	31	36.05%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

03-31-08, 09:57 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Women? On nuclear subs? I guess this was bound to happen. US Navy Mans Two Nuclear Subs with Women

03-31-08, 10:07 PM	#2
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	A distracted crew is a dead crew, it's just a matter of time. From all of the Navy stories I've heard of mixed crew ships, they were constantly sending pregnant women home, who got pregnant onboard. I'm glad everybody is focused. __________________

03-31-08, 10:23 PM	#3
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	Mixed crews have been used in the Royal Navy for a fairly long time. There have been a few instances such as the one nikimcbee describes, but that's because 'another pregnant sailor' gets more headlines than 'females on board ships are actually quite good at the job'. If they are as good as their male counterparts, and discounting the few bad headline grabbers, why shouldn't females be allowed on board ship? __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

03-31-08, 10:45 PM	#5
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	I'm a ground pounder and in a trade where no females are allowed. We still get the odd female clerk or mechanic who volunteer to go with us so they can search other females, but they are few and far between. They share the same risks we do and get injured and killed the same way we do, plus they are all volunteers - no politician can force them to leave the camp gates. You can't afford distractions and they've proven themselves time and again. I'm definitely pro-female - some of them have got more guts than some of the guys I've worked with. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

03-31-08, 11:13 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I hate you. I also deleted my all-too serious reply, which I never do. Color me :rotfl: __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-31-08, 11:18 PM	#7
CptGrayWolf Commander Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saint Lawrence Seaway Posts: 459 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Hey Sailor Steve what happened!? I was just going to answer your old men, young men war theory! :p Women on subs... is it really a distraction? I'd like to think we are more sophisticated then that. Then again, it is young men and young women... :hmm: __________________ Thomas Voltz, U-93 VIIc, Aug 1940, at sea patrol 1 GWX3 Gold, 100%

03-31-08, 11:34 PM	#8
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	They are great eye-candy, the problem comes when they get too familiar. We had one sent home for being too free with her affections - the comment was: 'I'm all for morale, but eventually she'll destroy the morale of this unit'. I'm not going back on my previous comments - she was one bad apple among a number of great female soldiers. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

04-01-08, 03:23 AM	#9
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Quoting from the linked article: "the Navy plans to get women into submarines and avoid mixing with seamen by making two US Virginia class subs consist of all-female crew and officers" so there shouldn't be too much distraction of the mixed sex variety.

04-01-08, 03:48 AM	#10
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Slow this morning, aren't we. __________________

04-01-08, 03:53 AM	#11
rod_oil A-ganger Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Russia Posts: 73 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	USS "Lez" ready to depart, sir!:rotfl: USS "Pregnancy" succeful arrive at homebase! Which submarine will serve better well see after USS "Lez" return back!:rotfl:

04-01-08, 04:09 AM	#12
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Whats next, women being allowed to vote!?! Seriously whats all the fuss about, its 2008 people! This should have happened at least 20 years ago! Any sailor that can`t prioritise between Launch Nuclear Warhead or Stare At Boobies really shouldnt be in the navy to begin with. __________________

04-01-08, 04:19 AM	#13
Uncle Goose Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 113 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I highly doubt any women would have wanted to serve on a U-boat, the lack of sanitation would have scared off any woman wanted to serve on it. nowaydays subs have showers.

04-01-08, 05:31 AM	#14
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Alright, which three chauvenist pigs voted for " Women should stay home and make cookies"? __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

04-01-08, 05:35 AM	#15
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I can't believe we are going to waste 2 Virginia class subs on some women. Why not give em a couple of 688's.