GWX 2.0 without the graphical changes?

Hi
Is there any way to install GWX without the graphical changes? Just use the gameplay adjustments? If i install the full thing, going to sea takes 6 min to load! With vanilla sh3 it takes around 40sec which is much more barable.

It must be some new graphic i recon that my comp cannot handle... Also, is it possible to not add the large overlay picture around my uboat in mapview? I liked it better with just seing my uboat as a "ship-body".

Thanks a lot
Erik

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by suliman

Hi
Is there any way to install GWX without the graphical changes? Just use the gameplay adjustments? If i install the full thing, going to sea takes 6 min to load! With vanilla sh3 it takes around 40sec which is much more barable.

It must be some new graphic i recon that my comp cannot handle...

How are your framerates (press CTRL+F8) to see the FPS. GWX has added kazillions of things over stock, making the world more alive and all that. It naturally takes alot longer to load than stock SHIII.

[danlisa]

Yeah, what Dowly said.

The loading times are directly related to the amount of campaign scripting & vessels etc that needs to be loaded when the game starts.

The 'Graphics', as you call them, are actually better optimised than Stock Sh3 ever was. So removing the 'Graphics' is not going to help you.

Here's why GWX takes longer to load:

Stock 1.4b:
Air Units = 13
Sea Units = 49
U-Boats+Subs = 8
SCR Campaign = 19249 lines
RND Campaign = 402082 lines
LND Campaign = 11968 lines
Total = 433299

GWX 2.0:
Air Units = 40
Sea Units = 182
U-Boats+Subs = 24
SCR Campaign = 486859 lines
RND Campaign = 629050 lines
LND Campaign = 53925 lines
Total = 1169834 :rotfl:

Thats a 169.98% increase in campaign scripting alone. Don't forget, when you click START, all the items above are loaded each & every time into your PC's memory.

Just think what you'll be mnissing.

oh
then maybe i need to keep away from gwx, it makes it so slow its just frustrating to play, sadly.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by suliman

oh
then maybe i need to keep away from gwx, it makes it so slow its just frustrating to play, sadly.

What is so slow about it?

Is it the load times or is it once you are ingame?

You can't do much about the load times, except using individual campaign files for the different areas of operation. This is a world encompassing simulation, it takes time to load the data, we didn't build an arcade shooter.

If it's the performance in & around your home port, you can enable the Light Habour Traffic Mod which removes all port traffic, except your port escort. This will greatly help your performance in port.

Also, do not use the 16km Atmosphere mod, this doubles your visual/sensor & game range but also doubles your memory drain/footprint on low end systems.

Honestly, with these options used, GWX is no more taxing for your system than Stock SH3 was. GWX was designed that way. You only need the original Recommended Specs to play it.

What are your specs btw?

[Barbac]

Morning all

Just follow your deepest instinct Suliman... No need to persuade you that GWX is definitely worth its loading time so make it your way and make your own choice



Barbac

[rod_oil]

Originally Posted by suliman

oh
then maybe i need to keep away from gwx, it makes it so slow its just frustrating to play, sadly.

Dont do it, kameard! If u decline GWX u decline opportunity of becoming of the part of historical reconstruction of Battle for Atlantic. I got long time of loading which i can shorten with Lite Harbour Mod from GWX, but i did not do it coz I sacrifice speed of loading to the immersion.

no ingame worked pretty well, its just the loading each time i leave port. I guess its all that scripting then

win xp
2.6 Gig pentium 4
768mb ram (lousy i know)
radeon 9550 256mb

No sweat, its a great mod, i know i dont pack the most impressive rig.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by rod_oil

Dont do it, kameard! If u decline GWX u decline opportunity of becoming of the part of historical reconstruction of Battle for Atlantic. I got long time of loading which i can shorten with Lite Harbour Mod from GWX, but i did not do it coz I sacrifice speed of loading to the immersion.

Gah, whining bstards! (j/k!) Before I upgraded my rig, I had to play SHIII with a CONSTANT FPS of 10-14 and that was at open sea, with no one around. Imagine stalking a convoy with an FPS of max of 6.

whining? playing a game at 6fps or needing to load for 6min every 15min or so is just not fun. Thats all.

Thanks for your help explaining the gwx behaviour guys.
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[danlisa]

Originally Posted by suliman

no ingame worked pretty well, its just the loading each time i leave port. I guess its all that scripting then

Aha, that's the time for beer, coffee or your women. Wha? 6 mins is long enough.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

My loading times are close to 10 minutes, due to all the mods Im using, the porsue of REALISM!!!

So what if it takes 10 minutes? I go to the kitchen, take a coffee, some bread with honey, do something else I gotta do, when I get back, everything is loaded and I can sit comfortably numb and play my game. If the game runs normal for you, and only the loading times increased, you have no place complaining about that here, thats normal life of every kaleun in this forum, coz realism worths so much more then another 5 minutes of loading time.

If you stick in front of your monitor waiting for the game to load, you're gonna freak out. Do what everybody here does, go take a coffee.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Aha, that's the time for beer, coffee or your women. Wha? 6 mins is long enough.

RRRrrrrright.... well... nice to know that Dan.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by Dowly

RRRrrrrright.... well... nice to know that Dan.

Wha? I'm sure your right hand would agree.

That's an image I'm stuck with.......<looking for MiB flashy thing>

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Wha? I'm sure your right hand would agree.

That's an image I'm stuck with.......<looking for MiB flashy thing>

*FLASH*

You are a chimp, you dont remember anything from this.

Na na naaaa!! :p