Targetting question

cwelt · 03-05-08, 10:36 AM

Hello all, have another question and I hope someone can answer it... I will try my best to explain it.

I have a friend who just bought SH4 and never played and sub sims before, so I have him starting on learning manual targetting but for now he is doing automatic TDC. Well last night he was playing and it was a night raid so we parked at a 90 degree angle to the ships course and laid in wait. He had the scope locked onto the target, turned on the position keeper in the TDC once locking the target and I noticed something very strange... the pull out box that shows your torpedo tubes has that circle with the "A" in it that when locked lights up and if you hover the mouse it will give a rating as to your solution... my question is, with automatic targetting being used how can the solution go from "good locked" to "poor" with no variable changes. The periscope is still locked, there are no rough seas, the target has not changed course or speed. I am at a loss!! the target closed to within 1800 yards as we got the 90 AOB perfect shot and it still showed "poor locked" (by this time I was frustrated and had turned off the position keeper and turned it back on to refresh the data but it would not go to a "good locked" status again). I finally decided I was going to click on the "A" just for fun and I noticed the "A" turned from yellow to green. I then had him fire off 4 shots at the ship (again this is for training so we shoot to overkill lol) and it is a good thing he did as the first 2 slid right by the front (by a matter of a 1/2 second at most so possible speed change by target) the third blew up shortly after leaving the ship and the fourth managed to hit the bow. Does anyone understand how (with no variable changes noticable) the lock can go from good to poor so quickly??

Hope I explained this well.. and thanks to any and all who have ideas on this as trying to explain it to my buddy I was at a loss

Rockin Robbins · 03-06-08, 03:34 PM

If I remember right the locked target has a different color rating depending on its bearing. It seems like a bearing between 345 and 15 gave a green light, but I'm probably wrong on the exact range, as it's been over six months. The principle here is that the lower the gyro angles are the more accurate the shot.

cwelt · 03-06-08, 03:43 PM

Yeah, I have seen the color go from yellow to green indicating a good bearing and range, but that darn "A" on the trop management box will still say "poor locked" from time to time, even with a green "good to go" color. I am stumped to say the least....

BTW.. thanks so much for your insight into this, the way it was going I never thought I was going to get an answer lol!!!

03-05-08, 10:36 AM	#1
cwelt Mate Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 52 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Targetting question Hello all, have another question and I hope someone can answer it... I will try my best to explain it. I have a friend who just bought SH4 and never played and sub sims before, so I have him starting on learning manual targetting but for now he is doing automatic TDC. Well last night he was playing and it was a night raid so we parked at a 90 degree angle to the ships course and laid in wait. He had the scope locked onto the target, turned on the position keeper in the TDC once locking the target and I noticed something very strange... the pull out box that shows your torpedo tubes has that circle with the "A" in it that when locked lights up and if you hover the mouse it will give a rating as to your solution... my question is, with automatic targetting being used how can the solution go from "good locked" to "poor" with no variable changes. The periscope is still locked, there are no rough seas, the target has not changed course or speed. I am at a loss!! the target closed to within 1800 yards as we got the 90 AOB perfect shot and it still showed "poor locked" (by this time I was frustrated and had turned off the position keeper and turned it back on to refresh the data but it would not go to a "good locked" status again). I finally decided I was going to click on the "A" just for fun and I noticed the "A" turned from yellow to green. I then had him fire off 4 shots at the ship (again this is for training so we shoot to overkill lol) and it is a good thing he did as the first 2 slid right by the front (by a matter of a 1/2 second at most so possible speed change by target) the third blew up shortly after leaving the ship and the fourth managed to hit the bow. Does anyone understand how (with no variable changes noticable) the lock can go from good to poor so quickly?? Hope I explained this well.. and thanks to any and all who have ideas on this as trying to explain it to my buddy I was at a loss

03-06-08, 03:34 PM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	It's been months since I've done auto targeting but... If I remember right the locked target has a different color rating depending on its bearing. It seems like a bearing between 345 and 15 gave a green light, but I'm probably wrong on the exact range, as it's been over six months. The principle here is that the lower the gyro angles are the more accurate the shot. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-06-08, 03:43 PM	#3
cwelt Mate Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 52 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I have seen the color go from yellow to green indicating a good bearing and range, but that darn "A" on the trop management box will still say "poor locked" from time to time, even with a green "good to go" color. I am stumped to say the least.... BTW.. thanks so much for your insight into this, the way it was going I never thought I was going to get an answer lol!!!