[TEC] Rates of fire for the AA guns

LukeFF · 02-18-08, 08:25 AM

Where is this value stored? i couldn't find it in any of the files that I searched.

DrBeast · 02-18-08, 08:35 AM

Try playing around with recoil_time and/or recoil_dist. The lower the values, the faster the ROF. Can't remember which one had the most profound impact. Could be one of them, or both.

LukeFF · 02-18-08, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBeast

Try playing around with recoil_time and/or recoil_dist. The lower the values, the faster the ROF. Can't remember which one had the most profound impact. Could be one of them, or both.

Probably recoil time. I'll check and see.

andycaccia · 02-18-08, 09:51 AM

Besides the firing rate is there a way to increase the ammo amount for 20mm AA Guns??
I am running 1.4 and i can not change that damn value!!

Taurolas · 02-18-08, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andycaccia

Besides the firing rate is there a way to increase the ammo amount for 20mm AA Guns??
I am running 1.4 and i can not change that damn value!!

There is if you use S3D, if you havent got it i'd suggest you get it now as its probably the best single SH4 modding tool since MiniTweaker... check throught the sim/zon files for the weapon involved to change various settings such as ammo amount / reload and other things

andycaccia · 02-19-08, 05:25 AM

Thak you very much Taurolas! I have S3D but i never used it to change the ammo values.

Thanks again!

DrBeast · 02-19-08, 05:31 AM

Clip size (i.e. how many bullets per clip) is defined in each gun's .sim file. Clip amount is defined in the.upc files (can't remember which one right now).

andycaccia · 02-19-08, 05:40 AM

Right Dr. I see the value. I modded only the total ammo amount and the game engine dind't take the modification. I will change the clip size and/or the number of clips available

DrBeast · 02-19-08, 05:43 AM

.upc files are a bit dodgy...you might need to start a need career for the changes to register. Or, do the same changes to the upc file(s) in your savegame directory.

Taurolas · 02-19-08, 07:05 AM

If you use S3D to moddify the Sim files on the gun in question..

A. make sure its the gun you use (single or double etc)
b. make sure you save the file
c. start a new game

If you do the above all should be well... I dont change the upc file amounts for clip size as this i found crashes the game when i do it, or has done in the past when i start the game or if it actually loads when i fire the weapon.

I would strongly suggest you leave the clip size alone and alter the sim file only with the ammount required.

CaptainHaplo · 02-19-08, 07:21 AM

Edits like this dont take effect unless you start a new mission/career etc. The reason is that "current" ammo amounts are stored in the save game files. Just an fyi on why a fresh game is required - or do the change in port.

DrBeast · 02-19-08, 08:10 AM

@Taurolas: don't confuse clip size with amount of clips. Clip size is defined in the .sim file.

@CaptainHaplo: what if you change the .upc files in the savegame folder? Will it still require a new career start?

andycaccia · 02-19-08, 08:29 AM

Thanks a lot. I'm not playing sh4 at the moment because my pc is in poor status (I'm going to format and re install OS and everything else as soon as i get a few free hours). Once installed the game again i will follow your instructions.

ridgewayranger · 02-19-08, 11:48 AM

Hi,
I'm intrigued, what and where is S3D?
RR

andycaccia · 02-19-08, 12:40 PM

Hi!
S3D is the ultimate editing tool made for sh4. You can find it here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119571
enjoy!!

02-18-08, 08:25 AM	#1
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	[TEC] Rates of fire for the AA guns Where is this value stored? i couldn't find it in any of the files that I searched. __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

02-18-08, 08:35 AM	#2
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Try playing around with recoil_time and/or recoil_dist. The lower the values, the faster the ROF. Can't remember which one had the most profound impact. Could be one of them, or both. __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

02-18-08, 09:51 AM	#4
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Besides the firing rate is there a way to increase the ammo amount for 20mm AA Guns?? I am running 1.4 and i can not change that damn value!! __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"

02-19-08, 05:25 AM	#6
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Thak you very much Taurolas! I have S3D but i never used it to change the ammo values. Thanks again! __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"

02-19-08, 05:31 AM	#7
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Clip size (i.e. how many bullets per clip) is defined in each gun's .sim file. Clip amount is defined in the.upc files (can't remember which one right now). __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

02-19-08, 05:40 AM	#8
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Right Dr. I see the value. I modded only the total ammo amount and the game engine dind't take the modification. I will change the clip size and/or the number of clips available __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"

02-19-08, 05:43 AM	#9
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	.upc files are a bit dodgy...you might need to start a need career for the changes to register. Or, do the same changes to the upc file(s) in your savegame directory. __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

02-19-08, 07:05 AM	#10
Taurolas Medic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Notts UK Posts: 163 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	If you use S3D to moddify the Sim files on the gun in question.. A. make sure its the gun you use (single or double etc) b. make sure you save the file c. start a new game If you do the above all should be well... I dont change the upc file amounts for clip size as this i found crashes the game when i do it, or has done in the past when i start the game or if it actually loads when i fire the weapon. I would strongly suggest you leave the clip size alone and alter the sim file only with the ammount required. __________________ Yarrr!

02-19-08, 07:21 AM	#11
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Edits like this dont take effect unless you start a new mission/career etc. The reason is that "current" ammo amounts are stored in the save game files. Just an fyi on why a fresh game is required - or do the change in port. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-19-08, 08:10 AM	#12
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	@Taurolas: don't confuse clip size with amount of clips. Clip size is defined in the .sim file. @CaptainHaplo: what if you change the .upc files in the savegame folder? Will it still require a new career start? __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

02-19-08, 08:29 AM	#13
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Thanks a lot. I'm not playing sh4 at the moment because my pc is in poor status (I'm going to format and re install OS and everything else as soon as i get a few free hours). Once installed the game again i will follow your instructions. __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"

02-19-08, 11:48 AM	#14
ridgewayranger Frogman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ipswich, England Posts: 302 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	S3D Hi, I'm intrigued, what and where is S3D? RR

02-19-08, 12:40 PM	#15
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Hi! S3D is the ultimate editing tool made for sh4. You can find it here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119571 enjoy!! __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"