Blue Ray wins the Hi-Def DVD war

[bookworm_020]

Looks like HD DVD is dead and buried. Now will come the interesting part. What will hppen to all who bought the HD DVD and What will happen to the price of Blue Ray DVD players?:hmm:

http://www.australianit.news.com.au/...-15306,00.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/articles/...190700636.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

[TarJak]

Same as what happened to people who bought Betamax VCR's. They got their VHS machines at cheaper prices than the early adopters, but blew more on their original purchase.

I'm waiting until Toshiba actually makes the final announcement of the death of HD before looking to buy a Blu-Ray machine.

[antikristuseke]

For some reason neither linked opened for me so i have to ask, did porn finaly choose its format of choise ending the war?

[d@rk51d3]

Last report I read fron Toshiba is that they will be providing limited support only.

Since all major film producers have dropped it, there's little point continuing I'd say.

Now if the Xbox-360 had come out with HD-DVD as standard, just as Sony did with Blu-Ray and the PS3, maybe things would have been different, as the market would be now swamped with HD players, then again, maybe it would have just dragged things out a bit longer.......... who knows.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

For some reason neither linked opened for me so i have to ask, did porn finaly choose its format of choise ending the war?

Blu-Ray lends itself to that "style", if only in name.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by TarJak

I'm waiting until Toshiba actually makes the final announcement of the death of HD before looking to buy a Blu-Ray machine.

Yep.

I'm glad that this is finally looking like getting sorted. I would hate for this war of formats to drag on for another couple of years.

[JSLTIGER]

Personally, I'm very happy Blu-Ray won the war. It's a significantly more advanced technology than HD-DVD, and it's nice to see the "better" format win for a change (as compared to VHS over Betamax).

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

, and it's nice to see the "better" format win for a change (as compared to VHS over Betamax).

:rotfl: :rotfl: That just cracked me up because I remember as a kid, our Dad giving us the Beta video, better format argument. While it was true it did nothing to soften our family embarrassment and shame as all my school friends had VHS and had a wealth of title to choose from at the video stoor while we were stuck in the pitifully small Beta section of the video store with such a narrow choice of 'old' releases. We were like video lepers.

I have sworn never to put my children through what my father did in the Beta vs VHS debacle.

Long live Blu-Ray.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Same as what happened to people who bought Betamax VCR's. They got their VHS machines at cheaper prices than the early adopters, but blew more on their original purchase.

I'm waiting until Toshiba actually makes the final announcement of the death of HD before looking to buy a Blu-Ray machine.

Same here and believe me, I've a boat load of DVD's

@antikristuseke...LMAO

[TarJak]

An interesting article that talks about Toshiba's possible next moves.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...e-mulling.html

It will be interesting to see what route they take. If they have warehouses full of kit I'm guessing they will try to milk it for all its worth. Another interesting point raised was the nameless analysts predictions that it is a very slow moving market with comparatively small sales numbers.

What would be interesting to see is whether the latest news will drive increased sales of HD TV sets and Blu-ray players. Remember it is pointless having either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray if your set can't display the output in the way it was intended. Most plasma and LCD sets sold to date do not support full 1080p HD TV anyway so anyone who has anything less is not getting the full picture.

[SUBMAN1]

Read this thread for you Early Blu-Ray adopters.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131241

Right now, it would be stupid to even buy a Blu-Ray players with ver 2.0 right around the corner.

-S

PS. Oh - for the future, expect $100 movies, and about $15 rentals for Blu-Ray movies. Sony subsidies that are given to manufacturers to get the price down to HD DVD levels is about to expire. Welcome to our messed up world where the stupid consumer can be swayed to purchase a crappier technology when something better and cheaper already exists.

[bookworm_020]

It always pays to wait awhile to get the latest technology, Unless you plan to be a beta tester!

I doubt that they will jack up the price of the Blue Ray DVD's and players, they are still trying to attract people to the format. If they can capture half the people as they upgrade to TV's that can view HD (even if it isn't 1080p) then they willget the mass of people to start making the players come down in price due to the amount of sales they would receive.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

It always pays to wait awhile to get the latest technology, Unless you plan to be a beta tester!

I doubt that they will jack up the price of the Blue Ray DVD's and players, they are still trying to attract people to the format. If they can capture half the people as they upgrade to TV's that can view HD (even if it isn't 1080p) then they willget the mass of people to start making the players come down in price due to the amount of sales they would receive.

THey have no choice but to jack up the price of the Blu-Ray DVD's. It costs more than $30 to $40 + to press a single Blu-Ray DVD. This is where HD DVD has a major advantage - you can press HD DVD's cheaply on current standard DVD pressing machines with only minor modification (you can even play standard DVD's on an HD DVD player - you can't play standard DVD's on a Blu-Ray player - its incompatible). Blu-Ray needs a completely new line with incredibly expensive pressing equipment and they have a lot of failures to deal with as well. Sony recognized this so for the most part of this war, it set up a subsidy account to artifically deflate the cost on a Blu-Ray DVD to better compete with HD DVD.

Regardless if the format war is won or not, that subsidy account is running out. Your Blu-Ray discs in the very near future are about to take a spike in cost.

Netflix also said the same thing - they are planning on charging exorbitant prices simply to rent Blu-Ray in the future - that was big news about 2 weeks ago. The reason? The cost to purchase the Blu-Ray DVD is going up dramatically. Expect to pay $15 to rent a movie for the damn thing.

-S

PS. It won't always be expensive (With the technology march, it will get increasingly cheaper to make Blu-Ray), but I can guess I'll still be buying standard DVD's for the next few years while prices come down below the $50 barrier on Blu-Ray.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Right now, it would be stupid to even buy a Blu-Ray players with ver 2.0 right around the corner.

Unless you own a PS3.

That way you have a "cheap" blu-ray player, that is possible to update via firmware releases.



-EDIT- Just actually read the link, which tells you that anyway. - sorry SUMBAN1

[Blacklight]

Those blue ray machines had better be downward compattable with my standard DVD's because I have a metric ton of them.