"Hardliner set for Serbia poll win"

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7198481.stm



finally a president who wont suck up to USEU (united socialist European Union)... cant wait till we retake what is rightfully ours! , cant wait till febuary 3rd either already making party plans

[mrbeast]

What a great guy.........just check out who hes standing in for:

'.....Mr Nikolic is standing in for the Radical Party's official leader, Vojislav Seselj, who is still on trial at the UN war crimes tribunal in The Hague.'

[XabbaRus]

Hey America nor the EU can complain, after all it's democracy in action.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Hey America nor the EU can complain, after all it's democracy in action.

:rotfl:

Exactly.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

"war crimes"

[sonar732]

As I stated in a post in another topic...all that I care about is our Missouri National Guard soldiers who are being sent over there soon and that they will not be in the middle of another crisis.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

What a great guy.........just check out who hes standing in for:

'.....Mr Nikolic is standing in for the Radical Party's official leader, Vojislav Seselj, who is still on trial at the UN war crimes tribunal in The Hague.'

Indeed.

And what an unsavoury charater this Vojislav Seselj is. I guess he's just your typical run of the mill far right wing ultra-nationalist nutter.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

why the hell are national GUARD soldiers being sent to my country?? not a good idea to hope that "all will be will" knowing the current situation...

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

why the hell are national GUARD soldiers being sent to my country?? not a good idea to hope that "all will be will" knowing the current situation...

Possibly because of men like Mr Seselj?

[AntEater]

I suppose the NG soldiers will be part of KFOR.
Re the serbian election, it is hardly suprising.
I mean the west basically gives Kosovo to the Albanians, sponsors the indepence of Montenegro under dubious circumstances and there's no perspective of Serbia joining the EU anytime soon.
Actually the very day before the election, the EU started to make overtures to Belgrade for membership, but only in exchange for concessions.
Given all that, it is hardly suprising that the west has few friends in Belgrade right now.
Radical or not, turning to Russia as a wealthy major power that was the only nation to protest the 1999 bombing and now has the money to actually help is a rational step.
Sometimes I think our Morons in power WANT the cold war back.
Sometimes I ask myself if we bombed the wrong side back in 1999. On the other hand, the Kosovo conflict will go down in history as the high tide of spin doctoring.
I suppose a similar media offensive would be a lot more difficult today, with blogs and after the "Iraqui WMD" thing and all.
It is just a pity that our idiot politicians prefer a bunch of mafiosi (who are even muslim!) over what is basically a european nation that should be part of the EU by all means. I mean certainly not everybody in Kosovo is a drug dealer (ordinary people everywhere mostly try to make ends meet) but their "democratic" leadership certainly is.
I just hope if Kosovo flares up again, we do the right thing and pull out.
It would be strange to fight AGAINST Saudi-sponsored islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan while fighting FOR Saudi-sponsored islamic fundamentalism in Kosovo


That country is, to quote Bismarck, "not worth a single Pommeranian Grenardier's life".

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

why the hell are national GUARD soldiers being sent to my country?? not a good idea to hope that "all will be will" knowing the current situation...

Per the UN Mandate of Resolution 1244 (.pdf file)...

NATO’s initial mandate was: [2]

• to deter renewed hostility and threats against Kosovo by Yugoslav and Serb forces;
• to establish and maintain a secure environment in Kosovo, including public safety and civil order;
• to demilitarise the Kosovo Liberation Army;
• to support the international humanitarian effort;
• to coordinate with and support the international civil presence.

Today, KFOR focuses on building a secure environment in which all citizens, irrespective of their ethnic origins, can live in peace and, with international aid, democracy and civil society are gradually gaining strength. KFOR tasks have included:

• assistance with the return or relocation of displaced persons and refugees;
• reconstruction and demining;
• medical assistance;
• security and public order;
• security of ethnic minorities;
• protection of patrimonial sites;
• border security;
• interdiction of cross-border weapons smuggling;
• implementation of a Kosovo-wide weapons, ammunition and explosives amnesty programme;
• weapons destruction;
• support for the establishment of civilian institutions, law and order, the judicial and penal system, the electoral process and other aspects of the political, economic and social life of the province.

[Skybird]

Realpolitik: I hope he wins for pure prgamtaic reasons. He possibly will stop the EU's insane influence on the Balkans that tries multikulti experiments that I cannot see to work in the long run and cannot see to work now, especially in Kosovo and Bosnia, and he will offer Moscow the platform in the region to become a power facotr on the scene, that the EU cannot afford and does not have the means to ignore. that way, it all saves the EU from itself and it's own ignorrance of unwanted but existing realities. I do not agree with the nationalistic tone, and in no way excuse things like warcrimes. as I aid - it is Realpolitik, not more, not less.

Interesting: the EU wanted democracy and freedom in palestine, and the Palistinians brought Hamas to power. The EU wanted a civilised way of doing politics in Lebanon, and the Hezbullah infiltrated the government and now is a state within the state. America demanded Esgypt to allow more freedom, and the muslim brotherhood immediately raised the number of parliamentary seats substantially. America said it wanted to remove Saddam to free the Irquis, and removing Saddam's strong fist set all the long-cooking ethnical and religious hate free and turned the country into chaos. The EU wanted the same on the Balkans, and Albania claimed Kosovo and the Mafia/UCK took it over.

Reason and tolerance are two nice thing, dear EU. But if you sit at the table with players that give **** about these things - you are screwed. You will never learn, I know, and will ignore that it is in opther's powers to ruin your beloved match by just not agreeing on your self-made rules, That's why I want the Russians in place to confront you with a solid wall in your way that you cannot pass, so that you may be protected from your own follies and their longtermed negative conseqeunces.

that all has nothing to do with sympathies for Serbia, or Russia. It is - realpolitik, and willing the election victory (eventually) of that extremist, and using the Russian to stop the EU, are just tools to implement it, and prevent greater damages. Damages to Europe I mean, not necessarily Serbia. I have no deal whatever with Serbia, neither in good, nor in bad.

It all is about islam too, of course. the EU certainly is bitterly determined not to stop but to assist the spread of Islam in that region and europe in general, but where the EU is failing miserably, the Russians and slavic people and the orthodox church hopefully are more determined to try to stop islam marching on the Balkans and into europe again. Having experienced the threats of Islam in their own sphere and having been confronted by islam much more directly than the EU (which is being taken with soft power from within), the russians have a lot less illusions about it, than Europeans. I am absolutely sure that Putin's poltiical analysis rates Islam as the top strategic threat and challenge beside the the US and NATO. If that knowledge will be enough to counter the negative effects of the demographic facts, must be questioned, but at least Putin is aware. Things like the Nashi movement are directed against the Western infuence and Islam as well as they are directed to the inside, by putting a course that brings more young ones into line with the official state, and make them think positive about Russian law and order, instead of alcoholism and drugs and decline of culture and values.