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Old 01-18-08, 05:47 AM   #1
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Default Graphics Settings Surprise need other opinions

I have been playing Falcon 4.0 Red Viper for a the last couple of days since I read about it in one of the threads in here and I Have been Mesing around with my graphics settings just to see what the diffrences were in the game, this is my system

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I run the game with Red Viper, graphics maxed out at 1024X768 and there are parts that are sluggish so I wondered what would happen if I changed the resolution to 1600X1200 (keep in mind my desk top display was set at 1024X768) I had to make monitor adjustments but aside from the graphics being Awesome it was no more or less sluggish it stayed relatively the same so then I changed my desk top to 1600X1200 and went back into the game (game still maxed and at 1600X1200) and it was a whole new Game! graphics still frikken awesome!! but no slug, not even a tad, no lines, nothing just smooth flying, SO I tried the same in SH4 and I didn't notice any great diffrence though I must say I have never had an ounce of problems out of SH4 graphic resolution wise, either playing it at 1024X768 or 1600X1200 I had no idea that having your desktop and game setting the same could make such a diffrence, is this normal and I just never new about, so should there be any diffrence between the two in SH4?
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Old 01-18-08, 10:13 AM   #2
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Some say that your desktop resolution should match your games. Also, refresh rate.
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Old 01-18-08, 10:57 AM   #3
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Agreed

I've also noticed that shadowing your game resolution with the desktop improves performance. Maybe that should be that your game resolution should not be higher than your desktop resolution.

Anybody want to try SH4 in 640 x 480 16 colors? Bet it flies!
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Old 01-18-08, 11:33 AM   #4
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yeah it does fly but the graphics are un-recognizable
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Old 01-18-08, 12:31 PM   #5
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My monitors desktop resolution is for 1600x1200, thats what my manual said so that is what i use in my games as well and man is it nice. I have aa8x and af 16 and smooth as a button. How is the newe falcon 4.0 red viper, i played falcon 4.0 but is this new the red viper, what are the changes.
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Old 01-18-08, 02:06 PM   #6
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I bought Falcon 4.0 Allied Force a while back and I read on this forum that it had been modded alot so I broke out the CD and began adding mods as it turns out after talking to others in their forums it breaks down like this: Falcon 4.0 was originally done by Microprose some modders got together and bought the rights to Falcon, modded it some and sold it on the market as Falcon 4.0 Allied Force (my version) but someone leaked some code from vanila 4.0 and other modders got hold of it and created -Falcon 4.0 Open Falcon- and yet others created -Falcon 4.0 Red Viper- so I am currently using the Red Viper mods and they are great!
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Old 01-18-08, 02:41 PM   #7
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For what it's worth, I have both desktop and SH4 at 1920X1200 and everything is beautiful and peformance is flawless. My monitor also has native resolution of 1920X1200.

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Old 01-18-08, 06:21 PM   #8
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What is the native resolution for SH4 and for SH3?

What is the native resolution for SH4 and for that matter SH3? Isn't SH3 just 800x600?
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Old 01-18-08, 09:16 PM   #9
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John what are the new differences in the red falcon mods exactly? thanks.
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Old 01-19-08, 06:01 AM   #10
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Since I have only been playing the Red Falcon (modded over Falcon 4.0 Allied Force) I can't say what the diffrence is from it to Allied Force or Open Falcon. I tried use open Falcon today and found that unlike Red Falcon Open Falcon will not mod over Allied Force, I don't know if it was caught in my earlier post but Falcon 4.0 [Vanila] (microprose) is the base, Allied Force (is Lead pursiuts modded version of Falcon 4.0 vanila bought from micropose and sold on shelves at stores), Red Falcon is a mod of Falcon 4.0 vanila that can be put over Allied Force (though only effecting Korea not balkins) and Open Falcon is yet another mod of Falcon 4.0 Vanila but it can only be put over the vanila. with all that in mind today I got the Vanila microprose Falcon 4.0 so that I could try out Open Falcon to see the diffrence in it verus Allied Force and Red Falcon. with all thatin mind this is my understanding of the biggest diffrences (still downloading Open Falcon as I type) Falcon 4.0 Vanila (Microprose) you play 1 theatre in Korean campaign circa 1983 this version has very poor graphics (its old) and is buggy. Falcon 4.0 Allied Force (Lead Pursuit): lets you play in two theatres either Korea or the Balkins, The Korean Theatre breaks down into 3 campaigns which are Korea 1983, Korea 2005 or Korea Euro war (which also takes place in 2005) Graphics a new and improved flight dynamics a more advanced Falcon 4.0 Red Viper: has the Korean Theatre only with three same three campaigns as Allied force, but its focus seems to be with a better flight model than allied force and excelllent graphic detail of plane models and terrain, all I know about Open Falcon for now is that its the same essentially as Red Falcon but instead of graphic (which are still good) its focus is on flight mechanics and simulation detail I.E. all the buttons in the cockpit work exactly as they should. now Red Falcons cockpit buttons work as well at least in the 2d cockpit you can see them operate and in the 3d virtual cockpit they aslo operate but don't move. where as I believe in Open Falcon they move and work in both. I'm about to find out for sure. Here is a link to try to help http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=3 I'll try to update and let you know more about Open Falcon it's done DL'ing now, oh and I almost forgot in Red Viper and Open Falcon you can fly with any sqaudron and in any plane in the campaign not just the F-16, I know also that some of them have the correct cockpits both 2D and 3D some cockpits are better than others, but some planes like the C-130 still use the F-16 cockpit, you can DL other cockpits (like the C-130)

Okay an update: From limited play of Open Falcon I found the Cockpit Graphics and use of the cockpit to be far superior to Red Falcon (though Red Falcon's are great) as Open falcon 100% of the buttons work Red falcon is 90% (somethings that you never use like cockpit heat) however the Red falcon Cockpit opens and closes and Open falcons does not... that being said Red falcons sounds in and out are better its graphics outside the cockpit are better, RF aslo has better 3D cockpits for most of the other planes.
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Old 01-19-08, 11:04 AM   #11
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Hi,
I tried various combinations of desktop and game resolution. The result was as I expected, F.P.S. dropped by 50% at the higher resolution!
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