Blackwater Usa

FIREWALL · 01-17-08, 06:55 PM

GOOGLE ..... And let the Debate begin.

sonar732 · 01-17-08, 07:03 PM

I throw a bone in for all the trolls....

FIREWALL · 01-17-08, 07:15 PM

I just saw this on a talk show realtime here 3pm pst and was shocked it wasn't on the News or SUBSIM.

edit: National Talk Show Sorry

Ducimus · 01-17-08, 10:55 PM

*shrug*

Their mercenaries. I don't buy the euphisem of "privatized military contractor" for one second. When i was growing up, we called em for what they are - mercenaries.

Scuse me while i rush out and grab my copy of Soldier of Fortune Magazine. :rotfl:

mrbeast · 01-18-08, 03:26 AM

Yep looks like mercenaries to me too. Theyve even got their own navy too, admittedly its only got one vessel though!

Skybird · 01-18-08, 06:12 AM

any special issue or event here? Blackwater is a known thing, it has been mentioned here before, and yes, it has a bad reputations of employing many trigger-happies, and yes, they are mercenaries and compare directly to the Italian condottieri in the 15th and 16th century. Bellum se ipse alet - war feeds itself. This warning of an amok-going soldateska one should not forget when one is putting the operational organisation and execution of war or war-like or war-supporting acts into the hands of private enterprises that live and make their income not from peace, but from ongoing war. There is a reason why in europe i the time after the Thirty Years War, private army-enterprises (mercenary enterprises) more and more were replaced by nation-owned, nation-run standing armies (to whom they proved to be inferior during the franco-Italian wars anyway, they were no match for the determined French attacking). They have massively interferred with politics, too, and sometimes turned against the hand that fed them. The new war-contractors like Blackwater are no step into the future, but several giant leaps back into a barbaric past. cost efficiency is the most weakest of arguments here, and what you save in money in the immediate present, will be presented to you in a culture-threatening long-time bill multiple times as high.

01-17-08, 06:55 PM	#1
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Blackwater Usa GOOGLE ..... And let the Debate begin. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-17-08, 07:15 PM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I just saw this on a talk show realtime here 3pm pst and was shocked it wasn't on the News or SUBSIM. edit: National Talk Show Sorry __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ??? Last edited by FIREWALL; 01-17-08 at 07:55 PM.

01-18-08, 03:26 AM	#5
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yep looks like mercenaries to me too. Theyve even got their own navy too, admittedly its only got one vessel though! __________________

01-18-08, 06:12 AM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	any special issue or event here? Blackwater is a known thing, it has been mentioned here before, and yes, it has a bad reputations of employing many trigger-happies, and yes, they are mercenaries and compare directly to the Italian condottieri in the 15th and 16th century. Bellum se ipse alet - war feeds itself. This warning of an amok-going soldateska one should not forget when one is putting the operational organisation and execution of war or war-like or war-supporting acts into the hands of private enterprises that live and make their income not from peace, but from ongoing war. There is a reason why in europe i the time after the Thirty Years War, private army-enterprises (mercenary enterprises) more and more were replaced by nation-owned, nation-run standing armies (to whom they proved to be inferior during the franco-Italian wars anyway, they were no match for the determined French attacking). They have massively interferred with politics, too, and sometimes turned against the hand that fed them. The new war-contractors like Blackwater are no step into the future, but several giant leaps back into a barbaric past. cost efficiency is the most weakest of arguments here, and what you save in money in the immediate present, will be presented to you in a culture-threatening long-time bill multiple times as high. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-17-08, 07:03 PM	#2
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I throw a bone in for all the trolls....

01-17-08, 10:55 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	shrug Their mercenaries. I don't buy the euphisem of "privatized military contractor" for one second. When i was growing up, we called em for what they are - mercenaries. Scuse me while i rush out and grab my copy of Soldier of Fortune Magazine. :rotfl: