Problem with sound contacts when submerged

letterboy1 · 01-15-08, 03:34 PM

I don't know if it's because of patch 1.4, the latest ROW sound mod, or something different alltogether, but alot of times I lose the audio for a sound contact when listening at the hydrophone station. My sonar man is steadily reporting the nearest contact from several nautical miles away until it's only 1000 yards in front of me and I can't hear anything whether I'm at 150 feet depth, 100, 80, or 60. Has anybody else encountered this?

M. Sarsfield · 01-15-08, 03:37 PM

My one experience is that the sound operator is a n00b and doesn't hear the ship until it's 2000 yards away (and you can't hear anything either to counteract his incompetence). The other experience is what you said where the contact gets very close and suddenly the sound op says there's no contact. In this case, I can spin the hydrophone and reacquire the target manually.

Sometimes the DD's will stop engines for a while and listen for you. Are you running TM mod?

Ducimus · 01-15-08, 03:42 PM

This has been a problem with stock from the very beginning i think. I could be mistaken, but this problem may have been inheirted from Sh3. I remember in that game id have a similar problem i fixed by swapping the active sonar man with another, and increasing TC a little bit, and it ironed itself out.

letterboy1 · 01-15-08, 04:00 PM

Actually, my sonar man is hearing the contact just fine and is reporting him like a pro. The problem is that I'm not getting any engine sounds of the contact when I manually go to the hydrophone station and listen for myself. I've not had this problem before. Oh, and I'm not running TM. I'm running the ROW sound mod. Not that it's a big deal to uninstall the sound mod, but this problem doesn't occur every time so I want to ask around about it before experimenting.

Fish40 · 01-15-08, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by letterboy1

Actually, my sonar man is hearing the contact just fine and is reporting him like a pro. The problem is that I'm not getting any engine sounds of the contact when I manually go to the hydrophone station and listen for myself. I've not had this problem before. Oh, and I'm not running TM. I'm running the ROW sound mod. Not that it's a big deal to uninstall the sound mod, but this problem doesn't occur every time so I want to ask around about it before experimenting.

Me too Letterboy. Useing ROW Sound as well. Sometimes I'll hear the contact one minute, then it'll just disappear. Other times I'll only pick up one engine noise out of several ships visable.

DrBeast · 01-16-08, 07:07 AM

I've had this problem as well. Still running 1.3, and ROW (including Sounds). But the problem persists even after I disable ROW Sound. I had made a list of the ships that lack the hydrophone sound, but I misplaced it somewhere

Even took a peak at the various sound-related files, but couldn't make heads and tails of it.

letterboy1 · 01-16-08, 08:45 AM

So you guys think it might be specific ships? Good thinking . . . I think I'll start my own list of ships that have no sound and see how it compares to what you have. Thanks for the input.

DrBeast · 01-16-08, 08:55 AM

It's definitely specific ships. I first noticed this in a test mission where I was using different merchants. After that, it was a matter of trial and error to see which ones were "mute" in the hydrophone. I hope I'll be able to dig up that list when I get home.

M. Sarsfield · 01-16-08, 11:08 AM

On my last patrol I ran into to or three ships that didn't have sound and were not reported by the sound operator. They were common merchant types that I have run into countless times and the sound worked on the other occassions. It's pretty random as to whether a ship that gets spawned in the game will produce sound or not. Even worse, it seems that TM added a lot of sampans and fishing boats to the game. So, if I get a radar contact and no sound, I assume it's a local native boat and move on without making visual contact. Usually, they travel in groups of 2 to 5. So, if I get a single contact with no sound, I'll check it out in case it's a lone freighter.

DrBeast · 01-17-08, 07:09 AM

According to the list (found it!) I made, the following boats do not produce hydrophone sounds:

Large Modern Composite Freighter (KLCS Nagara)
Medium Modern Split Freighter (KMSS Kinposan)

Can you guys confirm this?

letterboy1 · 01-17-08, 09:03 AM

Thanks, Dr Beast. I'll make some test missions when I get home to see what I get (as well as watching out for them in my campaign). My work day has just begun so it will be a while before I can do this. I'll report my findings tonight or tomorrow.

M. Sarsfield · 01-17-08, 09:05 AM

I think that I had a European freighter do this, too, but I can't remember for sure.

DrBeast · 01-17-08, 09:31 AM

Keep in mind that I compiled this list before the Christmas holidays, and I haven't played the game since, for various reasons I've stated time and again in other threads...I found this list (just a post-it, really) buried under mountains of notes on Veterinary Obstetrics

G/f has a LOT of things to study!

01-15-08, 03:34 PM	#1
letterboy1 Captain Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus, GA, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Problem with sound contacts when submerged I don't know if it's because of patch 1.4, the latest ROW sound mod, or something different alltogether, but alot of times I lose the audio for a sound contact when listening at the hydrophone station. My sonar man is steadily reporting the nearest contact from several nautical miles away until it's only 1000 yards in front of me and I can't hear anything whether I'm at 150 feet depth, 100, 80, or 60. Has anybody else encountered this? __________________ Asus P8 Z68 Deluxe MoBo Intel Core i7 @ 4.4 GHz 16 GB RAM EVGA GTX Titan Black 1.5 T-byte HDD Antec 1 KW True Power Quattro PS

01-15-08, 03:37 PM	#2
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My one experience is that the sound operator is a n00b and doesn't hear the ship until it's 2000 yards away (and you can't hear anything either to counteract his incompetence). The other experience is what you said where the contact gets very close and suddenly the sound op says there's no contact. In this case, I can spin the hydrophone and reacquire the target manually. Sometimes the DD's will stop engines for a while and listen for you. Are you running TM mod? __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

01-15-08, 04:00 PM	#4
letterboy1 Captain Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus, GA, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Actually, my sonar man is hearing the contact just fine and is reporting him like a pro. The problem is that I'm not getting any engine sounds of the contact when I manually go to the hydrophone station and listen for myself. I've not had this problem before. Oh, and I'm not running TM. I'm running the ROW sound mod. Not that it's a big deal to uninstall the sound mod, but this problem doesn't occur every time so I want to ask around about it before experimenting. __________________ Asus P8 Z68 Deluxe MoBo Intel Core i7 @ 4.4 GHz 16 GB RAM EVGA GTX Titan Black 1.5 T-byte HDD Antec 1 KW True Power Quattro PS

01-16-08, 07:07 AM	#6
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I've had this problem as well. Still running 1.3, and ROW (including Sounds). But the problem persists even after I disable ROW Sound. I had made a list of the ships that lack the hydrophone sound, but I misplaced it somewhere Even took a peak at the various sound-related files, but couldn't make heads and tails of it. __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

01-16-08, 08:45 AM	#7
letterboy1 Captain Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus, GA, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	So you guys think it might be specific ships? Good thinking . . . I think I'll start my own list of ships that have no sound and see how it compares to what you have. Thanks for the input. __________________ Asus P8 Z68 Deluxe MoBo Intel Core i7 @ 4.4 GHz 16 GB RAM EVGA GTX Titan Black 1.5 T-byte HDD Antec 1 KW True Power Quattro PS

01-15-08, 03:42 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	This has been a problem with stock from the very beginning i think. I could be mistaken, but this problem may have been inheirted from Sh3. I remember in that game id have a similar problem i fixed by swapping the active sonar man with another, and increasing TC a little bit, and it ironed itself out.

01-16-08, 08:55 AM	#8
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	It's definitely specific ships. I first noticed this in a test mission where I was using different merchants. After that, it was a matter of trial and error to see which ones were "mute" in the hydrophone. I hope I'll be able to dig up that list when I get home. __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

01-16-08, 11:08 AM	#9
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	On my last patrol I ran into to or three ships that didn't have sound and were not reported by the sound operator. They were common merchant types that I have run into countless times and the sound worked on the other occassions. It's pretty random as to whether a ship that gets spawned in the game will produce sound or not. Even worse, it seems that TM added a lot of sampans and fishing boats to the game. So, if I get a radar contact and no sound, I assume it's a local native boat and move on without making visual contact. Usually, they travel in groups of 2 to 5. So, if I get a single contact with no sound, I'll check it out in case it's a lone freighter. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

01-17-08, 07:09 AM	#10
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	According to the list (found it!) I made, the following boats do not produce hydrophone sounds: Large Modern Composite Freighter (KLCS Nagara) Medium Modern Split Freighter (KMSS Kinposan) Can you guys confirm this? __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

01-17-08, 09:03 AM	#11
letterboy1 Captain Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus, GA, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Dr Beast. I'll make some test missions when I get home to see what I get (as well as watching out for them in my campaign). My work day has just begun so it will be a while before I can do this. I'll report my findings tonight or tomorrow. __________________ Asus P8 Z68 Deluxe MoBo Intel Core i7 @ 4.4 GHz 16 GB RAM EVGA GTX Titan Black 1.5 T-byte HDD Antec 1 KW True Power Quattro PS

01-17-08, 09:05 AM	#12
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think that I had a European freighter do this, too, but I can't remember for sure. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

01-17-08, 09:31 AM	#13
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Keep in mind that I compiled this list before the Christmas holidays, and I haven't played the game since, for various reasons I've stated time and again in other threads...I found this list (just a post-it, really) buried under mountains of notes on Veterinary Obstetrics G/f has a LOT of things to study! __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!