ROW and TriggerMaru installation.....

Stary Wuj · 01-09-08, 10:23 AM

OK, I want this great mods, installing via JSGME, but which one should be
installed first ??? Of course latest version of this mods.

Some files are overwrited, so I'm asking about any suggestion.....

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

TDK1044 · 01-09-08, 10:52 AM

I installed TM first followed by all the ROW mods. I have had no problems at all.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-09-08, 10:59 AM

Same here, TM then ROW.

RDP

AVGWarhawk · 01-09-08, 11:01 AM

I install ROW then RFB. I believe it will not make much of a difference in the order they go in as ROW works with files that TM does not. They play nice together.

Mush Martin · 01-09-08, 11:06 AM

I always put in ROW first underneath either tm or rfb.

tomoose · 01-09-08, 01:02 PM

the comments above got me wondering. I know I'm stating the fairly obvious here but bear with me.

If you install ROW first then TM you'll get a prompt asking about overwriting certain files, correct? (i.e. the popup says something like "ROW has already modified these files do you wish to continue?..." or something to that effect).

If you install TM first then ROW you'll get a prompt asking about overwriting certain files aswell, correct?

All that to say that the order becomes very important depending on the end result you're trying to achieve. For example, say both ROW and TM make mods to file 'X' which affects the look of waves. ROW makes a much better mod to the file than TM and results in a beautifully realistic wave. IF ROW, however, is installed first then TM then file X will get the TM changes over top of the ROW changes basically cancelling out the ROW influence (I'm not picking on ROW or TM, they're just handy titles).

Is my logic correct here?

Q3ark · 01-09-08, 01:42 PM

You have to install TM first, then ROW as TM changes some of the same texture files that ROW changes. If you want to install the 1.7.5 beta patch that Duci has released then install it last after ROW.

Well that's the way i do it anywho

AVGWarhawk · 01-09-08, 01:50 PM

@Tomoose,

Correct, whatever file load next in line will change the files of the previous mod installed if those files have been changed. For example, if I install ROW then RFB, RFB changes the size of the sun as compared to the sun in ROW. Of course I can load ROW after RFB if I like the ROW sun size better. The are just textures. You need to look for changes in files like AI sensors. These are the files that affect game play.

Wilcke · 01-09-08, 01:56 PM

Guys,

Is anyone using the ROW Sub Reflections file with TM....? I thought that one was a no-no...it does want to over write a bunch of stuff from TM.

Stary Wuj · 01-09-08, 02:29 PM

Good question :-)

And many good answers :-)
Thank You.

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

Archie · 01-09-08, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilcke

Guys,

Is anyone using the ROW Sub Reflections file with TM....? I thought that one was a no-no...it does want to over write a bunch of stuff from TM.

G'day Wilcke, I do mate and it seems to be working fine, I run TM 1.7.5 RSRDC for TM and all the ROW 1.4 compat files, textures first followed by ship and sub reflections, zone mod etc etc, no problems at all so far this end.

Ducimus · 01-09-08, 05:49 PM

See item number 19 in TM's FAQ. Other then that, doesnt matter what order you install ROW and TM.

If you install the particular ROW modlet over TM that i annotated on faq item number 19, what will happen is you'll get stock sub specs, and all that entails. low batteries, slower dive times, shallow crush depth, etc etc.

Wilcke · 01-09-08, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

See item number 19 in TM's FAQ. Other then that, doesnt matter what order you install ROW and TM.

If you install the particular ROW modlet over TM that i annotated on faq item number 19, what will happen is you'll get stock sub specs, and all that entails. low batteries, slower dive times, shallow crush depth, etc etc.

yep...its all in the details or in this case item #19..........sometimes just cause it runs and looks good doesn't mean its working good

Archie · 01-09-08, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilcke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

See item number 19 in TM's FAQ. Other then that, doesnt matter what order you install ROW and TM.

If you install the particular ROW modlet over TM that i annotated on faq item number 19, what will happen is you'll get stock sub specs, and all that entails. low batteries, slower dive times, shallow crush depth, etc etc.

yep...its all in the details or in this case item #19..........sometimes just cause it runs and looks good doesn't mean its working good

aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, theres the rub, RTFQ (Read The F@#$ing Question), here I was all this time thinking everything was as it should be......... bye bye ROW Sub Reflections......

Ducimus · 01-09-08, 08:51 PM

Theres a reason why i was cocky enough to subtitle said FAQ, "The FAQ nobody ever reads" :rotfl:

The Roll and pitch/sub reflection mod. Delete from it, everything except the DAT files, and you'll have it all. All the stuff the other files do, have been incorporated into TM.

01-09-08, 10:59 AM	#3
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Same here, TM then ROW. RDP __________________ Back in the Day

01-09-08, 11:01 AM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,277 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I install ROW then RFB. I believe it will not make much of a difference in the order they go in as ROW works with files that TM does not. They play nice together. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-09-08, 11:06 AM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I always put in ROW first underneath either tm or rfb. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

01-09-08, 01:02 PM	#6
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Aye, there's the rub... the comments above got me wondering. I know I'm stating the fairly obvious here but bear with me. If you install ROW first then TM you'll get a prompt asking about overwriting certain files, correct? (i.e. the popup says something like "ROW has already modified these files do you wish to continue?..." or something to that effect). If you install TM first then ROW you'll get a prompt asking about overwriting certain files aswell, correct? All that to say that the order becomes very important depending on the end result you're trying to achieve. For example, say both ROW and TM make mods to file 'X' which affects the look of waves. ROW makes a much better mod to the file than TM and results in a beautifully realistic wave. IF ROW, however, is installed first then TM then file X will get the TM changes over top of the ROW changes basically cancelling out the ROW influence (I'm not picking on ROW or TM, they're just handy titles). Is my logic correct here?

01-09-08, 01:42 PM	#7
Q3ark Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: York, England Posts: 346 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	You have to install TM first, then ROW as TM changes some of the same texture files that ROW changes. If you want to install the 1.7.5 beta patch that Duci has released then install it last after ROW. Well that's the way i do it anywho __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son, But Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H20 was H2SO4.

01-09-08, 10:23 AM	#1
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	ROW and TriggerMaru installation..... OK, I want this great mods, installing via JSGME, but which one should be installed first ??? Of course latest version of this mods. Some files are overwrited, so I'm asking about any suggestion..... Best Regards Stary Wuj

01-09-08, 10:52 AM	#2
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I installed TM first followed by all the ROW mods. I have had no problems at all.

01-09-08, 01:50 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,277 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	@Tomoose, Correct, whatever file load next in line will change the files of the previous mod installed if those files have been changed. For example, if I install ROW then RFB, RFB changes the size of the sun as compared to the sun in ROW. Of course I can load ROW after RFB if I like the ROW sun size better. The are just textures. You need to look for changes in files like AI sensors. These are the files that affect game play. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-09-08, 01:56 PM	#9
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Guys, Is anyone using the ROW Sub Reflections file with TM....? I thought that one was a no-no...it does want to over write a bunch of stuff from TM. __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

01-09-08, 02:29 PM	#10
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Good question :-) And many good answers :-) Thank You. Best Regards Stary Wuj

01-09-08, 05:49 PM	#12
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	See item number 19 in TM's FAQ. Other then that, doesnt matter what order you install ROW and TM. If you install the particular ROW modlet over TM that i annotated on faq item number 19, what will happen is you'll get stock sub specs, and all that entails. low batteries, slower dive times, shallow crush depth, etc etc.

01-09-08, 08:51 PM	#15
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Theres a reason why i was cocky enough to subtitle said FAQ, "The FAQ nobody ever reads" :rotfl: The Roll and pitch/sub reflection mod. Delete from it, everything except the DAT files, and you'll have it all. All the stuff the other files do, have been incorporated into TM.