My guess as to why we had 8 years of GW Bush

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/ne...ging_elections

Reminds me of Nixon and his "Dirty Tricks" department.

In his hilarious-yet-disgusting political memoir "How to Rig An Election," former GOP operative Allen Raymond and ghostwriter Ian Spiegelman lay bare his role in the Republicans' 2002 Election Day scheme to jam the get-out-the-vote phone lines run by the New Hampshire Democrats and some local firefighters.

Before anyone qualifies this is "some liberal clap-trap", be reminded that his guy worked directly FOR the Republic Party.

Raymond consulted lawyers about the phone-jamming scheme and as soon as they informed him that the clearly unethical act wasn't illegal, he quickly hired an Idaho phone-banking firm for the job. After unleashing 800 calls in one hour on the Democratic phone banks on Election Day -- a kind of denial-of-service attack, he received a frantic phone call from McGee himself urging him to stop the jamming because McGee had discovered that it was illegal

For me, this nails it to the wall:

Aside from these brutally frank assessments, Raymond's message is ultimately earnest: He tells Americans that the reason they got stuck with two terms of President Bush's megalomaniac administration is because "election operatives like myself and the kind of politicians who hire us have ensured that idealists can't win elections."

My mom (a dyed-in-the-wool Republican) thinks Democrats may be underhanded, but for me, Republicans ain't quite so clean, either. Personally, I'm not much of a fan of either group. At least, this explains why Bush won twice by little more than the skin of his teeth (first in Florida, and re-election in Ohio, both of which had to be counted multiple times).

Maybe I should run for President of the Galaxy again.......
At least, I know what's going on.

[SUBMAN1]

The answer is simple why we had 8 years of G W Bush - he was the best man for the job given the alternatives.

-S

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The answer is simple why we had 8 years of G W Bush - he was the best man for the job given the alternatives.

-S

That was your vote. Not mine.

[SUBMAN1]

Yep I voted for him - twice. Could you imagine how screwed up we would be with Kerry in office? 'nuff said!

-S

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Zayphod

At least, this explains why Bush won twice by little more than the skin of his teeth (first in Florida, and re-election in Ohio, both of which had to be counted multiple times).

Bush won because the Democrats couldn't get through on the phones to harrass people into voting for them? This is a bad thing because...?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Yep I voted for him - twice. Could you imagine how screwed up we would be with Kerry in office? 'nuff said!

-S

Or the off-balanced Gore for that matter from the 2000 election. Yikes!

George Bush might not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but the Democrats just can't give us anything better. The American people even have a higher approval of Bush than they do of our failed do-nothing Democrat Congress.

[Ducimus]

My personal opinion - Bush got re elected because we were to chickens**t to vote in some new pile of horse manuere. I remember the debates, and one line of bush struck home to me. Went something along the lines of, "at least with me you know what your getting". That, and toss in the evangelical fundies who vote from the pulpit and not from any real world sense of logic or reasoning.

[SUBMAN1]

I expected a Kalifornian to chime in at some point!

-S

[Zachstar]

Subman stop acting childish.

If you love bush just say why and get it done with please.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Subman stop acting childish.

If you love bush just say why and get it done with please.

Actually, I'd instead have to ask you to stop acting so serious! I'm having fun here!

-S

[August]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Subman stop acting childish.

If you love bush just say why and get it done with please.

I think you miss the point. George Bush isn't by any means a perfect president but when the Dems put up loosers like Kerry and Algore what other choice did people have? Ralph Nader?

[Zachstar]

I understand politics. I understand that Kerry was a stupid decision.

My problem was his comment above.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

I understand politics. I understand that Kerry was a stupid decision.

My problem was his comment above.

Quit taking it so personal. Take a breather from the site if you need. If you are not having fun here, then you need to take time off. I'm screwing with Ducimus is all. Nothing more.

-S

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by August

I think you miss the point. George Bush isn't by any means a perfect president but when the Dems put up loosers like Kerry and Algore what other choice did people have? Ralph Nader?

I chose Gore over Bush still would today. Bush won because of the God squad not because he'd do better. Bush and Kerry? Would have been nice if both were lined out but nobody votes a "war time president" out.
Everyone said the youth vote would turn out. They didn't. They are saying it now with Obama. I really, really hope they don't.

[Skybird]

Great signature you have there, Brad!