Damage out of nowhere.

LeafsFan · 12-15-07, 08:31 AM

Hi,

I was on my first patrol using the latest version of TM. I was submerging for the day west of Formosa, with no enemies in sight, when all of a sudden, I started getting damage to the deck gun and flak gun. The crew started talking with excited voices as they would under attack I suppose. Trouble is they kept it up for the rest of the patrol. Is this a new or old bug?? Is it a stock bug or a TM bug??

HB

Renesisfury · 12-15-07, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafsFan

Hi,

I was on my first patrol using the latest version of TM. I was submerging for the day west of Formosa, with no enemies in sight, when all of a sudden, I started getting damage to the deck gun and flak gun. The crew started talking with excited voices as they would under attack I suppose. Trouble is they kept it up for the rest of the patrol. Is this a new or old bug?? Is it a stock bug or a TM bug??

HB

Possible if you were at periscope depth that there were planes flying over you that could see you underwater and were dropping DC's on you.

JREX53 · 12-15-07, 10:20 AM

LeafsFan,

It is not a bug. It is because Ducimus gave the planes better sighting AI in TM. I have had this happen numerous times, until I finally figured it out. The cure is to dive deeper, I usually go down to about 120', during the day when in enemy territory.

Jim
IC1(SS)

LeafsFan · 12-15-07, 12:43 PM

Makes sense. Thanks.

HB

SnowCajun · 12-16-07, 05:58 AM

What's kind of funny is if you get depth charge damage to your guns while under water, even at 350 feet, your gun crew gets injured as if they were still at station on the surface. That doesn't make sense to me! It's not like they're still sitting at their gun stations while underwater .. lol.

SnowCajun

Fincuan · 12-16-07, 06:08 AM

What do you mean they're not sitting in their stations underwater?

Rain gear and everything, these guys are preapared.

Idaeus · 12-16-07, 06:09 AM

That happens in normal sh4 too right? Thought that was kinda ridiculous...

EDIT: lmfao @ Fincuan!

LeafsFan · 12-16-07, 08:37 AM

The crew hooting and hollering the rest of the patrol is a pain.

HB

rrmelend · 12-17-07, 03:06 PM

That's just wrong on so many different levels.

Rockin Robbins · 12-17-07, 10:59 PM

Yes you are a victim of the evil Ducimus' CTD: Compulsive Tweaking Disorder. He has planes from up to nearly five miles away able to see you at periscope depth and depth charge you. Although this ignores the refractive index of water, which would render anything under the water at less than a certain angle (this would change with temperature and salt content) would be invisible, as any light rays would merely be reflected off the surface, both from above and below.

However, it adds a palpable sense of doom to the game, and with a reduced range for detection, might even be arguably realistic. I consider it Ducimus' version of the creation of Deltona, Florida. The designer woke up in the middle of the night with a nightmare, wrote it down and built it the next day.:rotfl:You don't go into Deltona without a GPS, maps, a cell phone and two days' food, and you don't play TM 1.7 if you enjoy living! It's a killer. Even GWX isn't that brutal in SH3.:rotfl:War is a dangerous game. Now you can feel it.

Ducimus · 12-17-07, 11:05 PM

This particular aspect is being retuned so its not so over the top. The orginal settings i defined were less dangerous in patch 1.3 then they are now in patch 1.4. The current threat level of planes isnt intended, although they are intended to be able to see a shallow sub.

flyingdane · 12-18-07, 01:17 AM

Hello all'.. I came across something strange today,...Yesterday i was playing SH4 the same way i always do, and Like I have since it first came out almost a year ago or what ever,

Ok".. so today i start up SH4 and begin to play like always and befor i know it There
is water spraying from pipes inside the command room and the conning tower.

Well by this time i'm freeking out, Don't know whats going on.. just that theres water poring in around me, I go strait to the damage screen.. (but theres no damage) And my hull number is still 0%.

The very next thing i do is to asign my dc party.."There all wide awake and on there toes", Well after 2 and a half hours game time we still have the same water leaks that we had when i started the game.

Here are some pics.

What can be causeing this damage that i can't fix ?, Im only running texture mods
and patch 1.4, any help is appreciated... Thank you.

Ps. no mines cause i checked for that posibility,... Also i only save on the surfuss never underwater.

Oopps, one more pic,......."I hate getting wet!!

Powerthighs · 12-18-07, 03:28 AM

@flyingdane

I'm not sure what caused the original damage but the water leaks will continue even after the damage is fixed. It's a graphical glitch, not an indication of persistent damage.

Rockin Robbins · 12-18-07, 08:26 PM

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It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Looks like your keyboard got sprayed too! Oh, the humanity!

12-15-07, 08:31 AM	#1
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Damage out of nowhere. Hi, I was on my first patrol using the latest version of TM. I was submerging for the day west of Formosa, with no enemies in sight, when all of a sudden, I started getting damage to the deck gun and flak gun. The crew started talking with excited voices as they would under attack I suppose. Trouble is they kept it up for the rest of the patrol. Is this a new or old bug?? Is it a stock bug or a TM bug?? HB

12-16-07, 06:09 AM	#7
Idaeus Seaman Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 41 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That happens in normal sh4 too right? Thought that was kinda ridiculous... EDIT: lmfao @ Fincuan! __________________

12-17-07, 10:59 PM	#10
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	CTD Yes you are a victim of the evil Ducimus' CTD: Compulsive Tweaking Disorder. He has planes from up to nearly five miles away able to see you at periscope depth and depth charge you. Although this ignores the refractive index of water, which would render anything under the water at less than a certain angle (this would change with temperature and salt content) would be invisible, as any light rays would merely be reflected off the surface, both from above and below. However, it adds a palpable sense of doom to the game, and with a reduced range for detection, might even be arguably realistic. I consider it Ducimus' version of the creation of Deltona, Florida. The designer woke up in the middle of the night with a nightmare, wrote it down and built it the next day.:rotfl:You don't go into Deltona without a GPS, maps, a cell phone and two days' food, and you don't play TM 1.7 if you enjoy living! It's a killer. Even GWX isn't that brutal in SH3.:rotfl:War is a dangerous game. Now you can feel it. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

12-18-07, 01:17 AM	#12
flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Hello all'.. I came across something strange today,...Yesterday i was playing SH4 the same way i always do, and Like I have since it first came out almost a year ago or what ever, Ok".. so today i start up SH4 and begin to play like always and befor i know it There is water spraying from pipes inside the command room and the conning tower. Well by this time i'm freeking out, Don't know whats going on.. just that theres water poring in around me, I go strait to the damage screen.. (but theres no damage) And my hull number is still 0%. The very next thing i do is to asign my dc party.."There all wide awake and on there toes", Well after 2 and a half hours game time we still have the same water leaks that we had when i started the game. Here are some pics. What can be causeing this damage that i can't fix ?, Im only running texture mods and patch 1.4, any help is appreciated... Thank you. Ps. no mines cause i checked for that posibility,... Also i only save on the surfuss never underwater. Oopps, one more pic,......."I hate getting wet!! __________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Last edited by flyingdane; 12-18-07 at 02:23 AM.

12-15-07, 10:20 AM	#3
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	LeafsFan, It is not a bug. It is because Ducimus gave the planes better sighting AI in TM. I have had this happen numerous times, until I finally figured it out. The cure is to dive deeper, I usually go down to about 120', during the day when in enemy territory. Jim IC1(SS)

12-15-07, 12:43 PM	#4
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Makes sense. Thanks. HB

12-16-07, 05:58 AM	#5
SnowCajun Bosun Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 61 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What's kind of funny is if you get depth charge damage to your guns while under water, even at 350 feet, your gun crew gets injured as if they were still at station on the surface. That doesn't make sense to me! It's not like they're still sitting at their gun stations while underwater .. lol. SnowCajun

12-16-07, 06:08 AM	#6
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	What do you mean they're not sitting in their stations underwater? Rain gear and everything, these guys are preapared.

12-16-07, 08:37 AM	#8
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The crew hooting and hollering the rest of the patrol is a pain. HB

12-17-07, 03:06 PM	#9
rrmelend Medic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 162 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	That's just wrong on so many different levels.

12-17-07, 11:05 PM	#11
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	This particular aspect is being retuned so its not so over the top. The orginal settings i defined were less dangerous in patch 1.3 then they are now in patch 1.4. The current threat level of planes isnt intended, although they are intended to be able to see a shallow sub.

12-18-07, 03:28 AM	#13
Powerthighs Beach Leaf Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 287 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	@flyingdane I'm not sure what caused the original damage but the water leaks will continue even after the damage is fixed. It's a graphical glitch, not an indication of persistent damage.