All bets are off?

STEED · 12-03-07, 01:33 PM

Dose this mean there will be no war? Or is there a bigger picture that we have yet to see.

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US report plays down Iran threat
Iran appears "less determined" to develop nuclear weapons than previously thought, US intelligence officials say.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7125701.stm

MothBalls · 12-03-07, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

is there a bigger picture that we have yet to see.

The headline should read;

The US people appear "less determined" to invade Iran than previously thought, US intelligence officials finally concluded.

12-03-07, 02:06 PM

Primary source:

http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf

Letum · 12-03-07, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

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Originally Posted by STEED

is there a bigger picture that we have yet to see.

The headline should read;

The US people appear "less determined" to invade Iran than previously thought, US intelligence officials finally concluded.

Haha, I would be surprised if that didn't have some truth in it.

I wonder how much public intelligence reports are "sensitive to public opinion".

Oberon · 12-03-07, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

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Originally Posted by STEED

is there a bigger picture that we have yet to see.

The headline should read;

The US people appear "less determined" to invade Iran than previously thought, US intelligence officials finally concluded.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

12-03-07, 02:56 PM

Who about this headline?

Bush will let the next President deal with Iran

Iceman · 12-03-07, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

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Originally Posted by STEED

is there a bigger picture that we have yet to see.

The headline should read;

The US people appear "less determined" to invade Iran than previously thought, US intelligence officials finally concluded.

Haha, I would be surprised if that didn't have some truth in it.

I wonder how much public intelligence reports are "sensitive to public opinion".

Wasn't this discussed in the "Enemy Within" thread? lol

12-03-07, 04:32 PM

What were the assesments from the US allies during the same period? I guess we'll never know will we?

Lurchi · 12-03-07, 04:50 PM

Which Allies? :hmm:

Seems that the newly promised evening war reality-show is taken out of the program or is it only postponed due to lack of funding?

12-03-07, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurchi

Which Allies? :hmm:

Seems that the newly promised evening war reality-show is taken out of the program or is it only postponed due to lack of funding?

You know the axis of weasels. Example: Germany is Iran's largest trading partner.

Chock · 12-03-07, 04:54 PM

I should imagine it's more a case of: 'Our analysts inform us that Iran appears more capable of shooting back at us than we initially imagined, and that's definitely a vote loser, so we'll shelve that idea, although we are still on the lookout for a suitable enemy armed with nothing more sophisticated than pointed sticks, but with large oil reserves - once we find somewhere that fits both these criteria, we'll be in business' :rotfl:

Chock

Jimbuna · 12-03-07, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chock

I should imagine it's more a case of: 'Our analysts inform us that Iran appears more capable of shooting back at us than we initially imagined, and that's definitely a vote loser, so we'll shelve that idea, although we are still on the lookout for a suitable enemy armed with nothing more sophisticated than pointed sticks, but with large oil reserves - once we find somewhere that fits both these criteria, we'll be in business' :rotfl:

Chock

Shame on you....but I like it :rotfl:

TteFAboB · 12-04-07, 06:52 AM

How can you be sure the other guy appears no longer to desire a nuclear weapon just so he can continue to build it without a spot-light in his face?

Skybird · 12-04-07, 07:05 AM

As I said throughout the past 18 months: if you want them make to stop by military force, you will need nukes to really shut down any existing program with it's key componentns hidden deep inside mountains, and the surface. And if you want to use nukes, you need undoubtable evidence and proof in advance, not after the war.

So either they see no chance to get the public behind using nukes, or they have no real substantial evidence to legitimate that option, or both. I think the last is the valid option, since even if there would be solid evidence confirmed by non-american sources - the western public and the american public still would not forgive the first-use of nukes.

However, the situation is far from harmless, and I personally think Iran seeks nukes indeed. It's the only reasonable and realistic option for them, politicially, and I even must not go into any ideological discussions for concluding that.

Tchocky · 12-04-07, 07:17 AM

If you want to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons, we must attack Iran with nuclear weapons.
Because only with nuclear weapons can we halt the evil spread of nuclear weapons. Nothing kills the desire for nuclear weapons like being attacked with them.
Of course, if we can't see any building project, then it must be hidden inside a mountain. Nuke the mountains.
Who said politics isn't funny?

Waste gate - China and Japan are Iran's largest export & investment partners.

12-03-07, 04:54 PM	#11
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I should imagine it's more a case of: 'Our analysts inform us that Iran appears more capable of shooting back at us than we initially imagined, and that's definitely a vote loser, so we'll shelve that idea, although we are still on the lookout for a suitable enemy armed with nothing more sophisticated than pointed sticks, but with large oil reserves - once we find somewhere that fits both these criteria, we'll be in business' :rotfl: Chock __________________ Last edited by Chock; 12-03-07 at 05:11 PM.

12-04-07, 06:52 AM	#13
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	How can you be sure the other guy appears no longer to desire a nuclear weapon just so he can continue to build it without a spot-light in his face? __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

12-04-07, 07:05 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	As I said throughout the past 18 months: if you want them make to stop by military force, you will need nukes to really shut down any existing program with it's key componentns hidden deep inside mountains, and the surface. And if you want to use nukes, you need undoubtable evidence and proof in advance, not after the war. So either they see no chance to get the public behind using nukes, or they have no real substantial evidence to legitimate that option, or both. I think the last is the valid option, since even if there would be solid evidence confirmed by non-american sources - the western public and the american public still would not forgive the first-use of nukes. However, the situation is far from harmless, and I personally think Iran seeks nukes indeed. It's the only reasonable and realistic option for them, politicially, and I even must not go into any ideological discussions for concluding that. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-04-07, 07:17 AM	#15
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	If you want to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons, we must attack Iran with nuclear weapons. Because only with nuclear weapons can we halt the evil spread of nuclear weapons. Nothing kills the desire for nuclear weapons like being attacked with them. Of course, if we can't see any building project, then it must be hidden inside a mountain. Nuke the mountains. Who said politics isn't funny? Waste gate - China and Japan are Iran's largest export & investment partners. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

12-03-07, 02:06 PM	#3
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Primary source: http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf

12-03-07, 02:56 PM	#6
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Who about this headline? Bush will let the next President deal with Iran

12-03-07, 04:32 PM	#8
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	What were the assesments from the US allies during the same period? I guess we'll never know will we?

12-03-07, 04:50 PM	#9
Lurchi Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wilhelmshaven, Germany Posts: 181 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Which Allies? :hmm: Seems that the newly promised evening war reality-show is taken out of the program or is it only postponed due to lack of funding?