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Old 11-28-07, 08:09 AM   #1
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SH3 or SH4

What are the pros and cons of each? From perusing the forums I get the sense that SH4 is buggy/unstable but has better gameplay and graphics than SH3. SH3 on the other hand is a 'finished' product with lots of community made mods. There is a certain appeal in playing as the americans, but if it comes at a significant loss of playability I think I'll pass...

The last an only subsim that I've played is the original silent hunter yaers ago, and I recall posting here about some technical issue I had.(I forgot my original login)

Sorry if this is the wrong forum to post in, but I hope that I'll get slightly more objective comments by posting in the General forum rather than in one of the Silent Hunter forums.

Thanks for the advice
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Old 11-28-07, 08:26 AM   #2
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SH3: (own experience)
+:
stable
well-modded
no unpleasant surprises anymore
still very good graphics and sound
nice gamepley
low price
fantastic atmosphere
runs perfect on nowadays hardware

-:
Starforce infested (workaround possible, though, but not allowed to be discussed in this forum)


SH4: (as far as I followed it)
+:
slightly better graphics
different theatre (question of taste)

-:
buggy and unstable
atmosphere not improved, some say: inferior
full price
not as well-modded as SH3
high hardware demands
still Starforce? I do not remember


My conclusion was that SH4 compared to SH3 GWX is not worth it for me to spend additional money on it.
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Old 11-28-07, 09:00 AM   #3
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Get Both. That way you can judge for yourself. You could probably pick up SH3 for $10 and SH4 for $50. Anyways they are both great games and worth having on your hdd.

SH4 1.4 patch is out with improvements and bug fixes. And for SH3 the latest GWX is out soon. Christmas is here!
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Old 11-28-07, 09:03 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skybird
SH3: (own experience)
+:
stable
well-modded
no unpleasant surprises anymore
still very good graphics and sound
nice gamepley
low price
fantastic atmosphere
runs perfect on nowadays hardware

-:
Starforce infested (workaround possible, though, but not allowed to be discussed in this forum)


SH4: (as far as I followed it)
+:
slightly better graphics
different theatre (question of taste)

-:
buggy and unstable
atmosphere not improved, some say: inferior
full price
not as well-modded as SH3
high hardware demands
still Starforce? I do not remember


My conclusion was that SH4 compared to SH3 GWX is not worth it for me to spend additional money on it.
Well said with regards too SH3, it is a great one, but I differ on 4.

SH4: (as far as I followed it)
+:
slightly better graphics
graphics, with patch and anticipated Reflections on Water modifications are much better than SH3
different theatre (question of taste)
Once used to it, the Pacific Theatre is also an enjoy able place to hunt
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buggy and unstable
It has been quite stable since 1.3, most probs. are from folks loading non-compatible mods, etc, or have been hardware related.
atmosphere not improved, some say: inferior
This is improving with continued mod development, much in the same way as SH3
full price
With patch 1.4 it is worth it
not as well-modded as SH3
Have a look at the mods section, there are many great mods already, this area will only get better
high hardware demands
Its a new game, so demands will be higher, an unfortunate reality of PCs
still Starforce? I do not remember
No starforce

For SH4 check out this thread:http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=124823
My advice, if your system can handle both, get em' both, they are well worth
it


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Old 11-28-07, 10:33 AM   #5
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Before buying both, buy just one, the cheaper one, and see if it fits your taste. In the end, you cannot run two sims at the same time, and cannot steer two subs simultaneously. And it takes much time and committment to play any of these two, but play it thoroughly.
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Old 11-28-07, 03:30 PM   #6
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If you've never played either, the sensible choice is SH3, not because it is any better or worse (they essentially involve the same thing), but simply because it is cheaper, and why spend 30 quid to find out if you like something when you can spend 10 quid to do the same?

I have them both, like them both and play them both, but SH3 will run on a lesser machine and has more free mods available for it, whereas SH4 is prettier, has quite a few mods, and has a mission disk coming out for it next year, but requires a better computer with better graphics capabilities to enjoy it with all the detail turned up.

If computing power, money and personal theatre of operations preference are not issues, then get both!

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Old 11-28-07, 03:30 PM   #7
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I have both. SHIV is the better one to have. I hear SH3 is being ported to it too, so you will have both in SHIV soon.

Last I checked, pretty much everything works bug free in SHIV.


One thing about SHIV - the AI is also much better in relation to enemy units. I'm not sure if I was ever really sunk by DC's in SHIII, but they will get you in SHIV.

-S

PS. Skybird is German, so he may be a little biased towards Uboats. :p
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Old 11-28-07, 04:35 PM   #8
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I have both. SHIV is the better one to have. I hear SH3 is being ported to it too, so you will have both in SHIV soon
Sound advise here!

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Last I checked, pretty much everything works bug free in SHIV.
Very playable with or without mod.


The first on is you definite answer. SH3 is basically melding into the SH4 engine. Add on in the works for next year.
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