How long would you wait?

Renesisfury · 11-26-07, 01:05 PM

For a Ise BB to sink? She took 4 torps in the starboard side, and is stationary. The deck on the torpedoed side is almost level with the water, I have been submerged for almost 12 hours and no change in list. Oh, BTW I have no torps left

mookiemookie · 11-26-07, 01:21 PM

Probably ain't gonna happen. You could always use your deck gun.

Renesisfury · 11-26-07, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Probably ain't gonna happen. You could always use your deck gun.

Tried that, its amazing what amount of damage they can do with those pesky 13" guns!

rrmelend · 11-26-07, 01:55 PM

How bad do you want the tonnage? That is the real question. You could wait for another 10-12 hours and wait for her to go under or you could wait that long and have her just sit there and not move another inch. It all depends on your patience level.

seafarer · 11-26-07, 02:03 PM

On the weekend, I put three evenly spaced torpedoes into a modern European composite freighter - fish were spaced bow, under the foremast, and under the mid superstructure. She settled to the point the bow was completely submerged - water literally lapping at upper superstructure deck.

She then eventually steamed off at 7 knots, and never sank. I was out of everything but 20mm, and there were two Akizuki's watching over her.

Only 4 fish into a BB? I'd expect by now, she's just not going to go down.

Sometimes (using NSM classic 3.3), it just frustrates the bejeezus outa' me that some ships just will not sink, even when half submerged from flooding! Another modern European composite I'd hit earlier, with only one fish under the foremast, sank in about 15-20 minutes, no problem.

The vagaries of war

Renesisfury · 11-26-07, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by seafarer

On the weekend, I put three evenly spaced torpedoes into a modern European composite freighter - fish were spaced bow, under the foremast, and under the mid superstructure. She settled to the point the bow was completely submerged - water literally lapping at upper superstructure deck.

She then eventually steamed off at 7 knots, and never sank. I was out of everything but 20mm, and there were two Akizuki's watching over her.

Only 4 fish into a BB? I'd expect by now, she's just not going to go down.

Sometimes (using NSM classic 3.3), it just frustrates the bejeezus outa' me that some ships just will not sink, even when half submerged from flooding! Another modern European composite I'd hit earlier, with only one fish under the foremast, sank in about 15-20 minutes, no problem.

The vagaries of war

I shot 6 at her, 2 of them missed.

Renesisfury · 11-26-07, 06:43 PM

Well, I waited another 12 hours with no change in position, so I checked out. Didn't get credit for that kill, but they sure were happy about that Yamato and Maya that I sank. Poor Maya took the salvo that was meant for Yamato 2 in the task force. Blew it apart with quickness!

Lord Kelvin · 11-26-07, 09:08 PM

Yeah, NSM makes things interesting, but the randomness frustrates me as well. Once I put a couple of torps into a medium composite, surfaced and blew its rudder away, then shot its waterline all to hell, and it was STILL steaming along at 5 knots with a slight list. I eventually had to put another torpedo into her before she started to seriously list and the crew finally bailed.

Another time I plugged a Hiryu sitting in port with 10 torpedoes all across its starboard hull, it took something like 15 minutes to settle on the bottom...

11-26-07, 10:22 PM

If she is listing enough you could go around to the other of the ship and open up with your deck guns. She should not be able to lower her guns enough to reach you. (just remember that if you hole her below the water line on both sides she will level up and then you will become targetable....)

11-26-07, 01:05 PM	#1
Renesisfury Mate Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 55 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	How long would you wait? For a Ise BB to sink? She took 4 torps in the starboard side, and is stationary. The deck on the torpedoed side is almost level with the water, I have been submerged for almost 12 hours and no change in list. Oh, BTW I have no torps left

11-26-07, 01:21 PM	#2
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Probably ain't gonna happen. You could always use your deck gun. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

11-26-07, 02:03 PM	#5
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	On the weekend, I put three evenly spaced torpedoes into a modern European composite freighter - fish were spaced bow, under the foremast, and under the mid superstructure. She settled to the point the bow was completely submerged - water literally lapping at upper superstructure deck. She then eventually steamed off at 7 knots, and never sank. I was out of everything but 20mm, and there were two Akizuki's watching over her. Only 4 fish into a BB? I'd expect by now, she's just not going to go down. Sometimes (using NSM classic 3.3), it just frustrates the bejeezus outa' me that some ships just will not sink, even when half submerged from flooding! Another modern European composite I'd hit earlier, with only one fish under the foremast, sank in about 15-20 minutes, no problem. The vagaries of war __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

11-26-07, 10:22 PM	#9
simonb1612 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Is she listing? If she is listing enough you could go around to the other of the ship and open up with your deck guns. She should not be able to lower her guns enough to reach you. (just remember that if you hole her below the water line on both sides she will level up and then you will become targetable....)

11-26-07, 01:55 PM	#4
rrmelend Medic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 162 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	How bad do you want the tonnage? That is the real question. You could wait for another 10-12 hours and wait for her to go under or you could wait that long and have her just sit there and not move another inch. It all depends on your patience level.

11-26-07, 06:43 PM	#7
Renesisfury Mate Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 55 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well, I waited another 12 hours with no change in position, so I checked out. Didn't get credit for that kill, but they sure were happy about that Yamato and Maya that I sank. Poor Maya took the salvo that was meant for Yamato 2 in the task force. Blew it apart with quickness!

11-26-07, 09:08 PM	#8
Lord Kelvin Loader Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 88 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Yeah, NSM makes things interesting, but the randomness frustrates me as well. Once I put a couple of torps into a medium composite, surfaced and blew its rudder away, then shot its waterline all to hell, and it was STILL steaming along at 5 knots with a slight list. I eventually had to put another torpedo into her before she started to seriously list and the crew finally bailed. Another time I plugged a Hiryu sitting in port with 10 torpedoes all across its starboard hull, it took something like 15 minutes to settle on the bottom...