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Old 11-25-07, 05:36 PM   #1
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Biologicals?

Interesting question today from an uninterested party, of all things!
WE know one can hear the sounds of marine animals on passive sonar on modern subs, but could a typical Fleet Boat sound guy hear 'em in WW2? I haven't a clue!
Thought this'd add a nice touch, if it's realistic for the time period, of course. Thanks to you gifted modders, I'm already enjoying the radio broadcasts, gramaphone, and the everyday whirs, clicks, and bangs of the workings of the boat.

It's nice to be able to come here and ask questions such as these. Anywhere but Subsim, the answer to the question'd be "Google it..."
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Old 11-25-07, 05:41 PM   #2
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If I want biologicals, I usually just put an episode of Flipper on the DVD player and let it run in the background.
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Old 11-25-07, 05:49 PM   #3
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They sure could. You can hear recordings of what they sounded like here: http://hnsa.org/sound/index.htm
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Old 11-25-07, 06:13 PM   #4
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i came across 2 dolphins just outside Bordeux last night, and could hear othe nearest of them
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I'm reading Nothing Friendly In The Vicinity (Claude Conner). Conner was a radar technician aboard the Guardfish. He mentions that because of the frequency range he could not hear pinging on the JP but he could hear all kinds of sea life like snapping shrimp, croakers and whales, and some sounds that were never identified. This is the way he describes it in the book..."The sounds built up to a peak at sunrise and sunset, like those in a tropical jungle. It was a wonderful cacophony of discordant whistles, howls, hoots, rumbles, belches, snaps, crackles, and pops."

Those recordings are great. Now if we can just add them to SH4.
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Old 11-25-07, 06:51 PM   #6
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This is fantastic information! I gotta get that book!
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Old 11-27-07, 07:20 AM   #7
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Jul21 1940, bearing 090deg, don't recall the Grid# but i think it was W of Brest, i heard whalesong , atleast that's what i assumed it to be, on hydrophones. if there is a sound file for that, perhaps the real thing could be imported ? it sounded eletronic and artificial

edit: this was in SH3
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Old 11-27-07, 08:14 AM   #8
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Schools of whales were often mistaken for convoys by rookie sonar operators (yes really) so it would be realistic to have the sounds at least.

But if it were in 3d you would have to be careful not to collied with the marine life
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Old 11-27-07, 08:30 AM   #9
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In the Wahoo's famous Reconoitering of Wewak Harbor, they got back out to the open sea without putting up the scope. The sound man could hear the shrimp on the beach and by their location knew when to turn. At the time he identified them as "beach noises". From George Grider's book Warfish.
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I was watcing TV on a program about modern subs. They are able to hear shrimps mating 6-700 nautical miles away. I am not shure if i belive it, because thats a long distanse to hear to shrimps having sex...
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Old 11-27-07, 11:37 AM   #11
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Hearing shrimp mating 7-800 miles away MAY be a bit of a stretch (these days, who knows? Only the sonar guys - and they ain't talkin'!). But, I do remember that before Toshiba and that durned Swedish company gave the Russians quiet prop technology, we could hear their Alfa-classes coming well over 200 miles out. It was a QUICK and beautiful-to-look-at boat, but about as subtle as a sledge hammer!
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Hearing shrimp mating 7-800 miles away MAY be a bit of a stretch (these days, who knows? Only the sonar guys - and they ain't talkin'!). But, I do remember that before Toshiba and that durned Swedish company gave the Russians quiet prop technology, we could hear their Alfa-classes coming well over 200 miles out. It was a QUICK and beautiful-to-look-at boat, but about as subtle as a sledge hammer!
As i said, I am not sure if i belive it, but look at all the technologies that a sub is stuffed with. A sub today got to give value for all that money a ex, seawolf costs, i guess it is pretty good hardware onboard.
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I am not too suprized if the story shows to be true. I never had it confirmed thou.....
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