[TEQ] Again: "can not initialize 3d engine"

PhantomLord · 11-23-07, 01:53 PM

Everytime i want to start SH3 i got this error message: "can not initialize 3d engine"

System specs:

Windows XP prof. SP2

Mainboard ASRock K7Upgrade-880 <----a new board
Athlon XP 2600+
1GB DDR-RAM
ATI Radeon 9550 256MB
SB-Live

Windows is a totally new install, also all actual drivers for all components, DX9c

Same things happen with other games like SH4, Stalker (Xray-engine-message appears with no error description).
All this happens since the new board is built in. Before there was an Asus A7V266-E, making no problems.
I´ve tried so many google matches for this error.....not one of millions of hints and tricks worked.

I´ll go to sleep now.....broken hearted...no tonnage tonight....

If someone knows something.....you´ll find me in the 3rd drawer of my office desk

U49 · 11-23-07, 02:29 PM

I've had that problem before. Usually after a few alt-tab in and out of the game or after starting the mission editor in parallel.

I always got rid of that after a reboot...

But I'm not sure what exactly the cause may be

T.Von Hogan · 11-23-07, 04:47 PM

Check your monitor refresh rate. If the frequency is too high you will receive that message.

DarkStar173rd · 11-23-07, 05:54 PM

T. Von Hogan is right, but like me you want to run at a higher res. I run at 100 then you have to start in 1024 by 768....before starting SH3. Hope that gets you out of the drawer.

Foghladh_mhara · 11-23-07, 07:18 PM

Well theres a coincidence. Got that tonight for the first time. My monitor refresh rate only goes to 60 or 75 Hz and it was set at the lower one. Thinking of throwing the whole pc out the window. I hate this thing

PhantomLord · 11-24-07, 02:36 AM

The problem is still alive.

I forgot to say i´ve a TFT-monitor here. Frequency is, was, and will be 60Hz forever. With the old mainboard everything was fine at 75Hz also.

*update*

There are some people with the same prob in another forum with other games. A wrong windows-service was the cause. So i´ve installed windows again.....guess what.....doesn´t work.

Subject · 11-24-07, 02:39 PM

I got that message after XP re-install. Didn't touch SH3 installation and first time I tried to start SH3, got that message. Solved it by installing DirectX from SH3-disc.

PhantomLord · 11-25-07, 08:56 AM

- Changed AGP-rate to 4x - no effect
- disabled accelerations - no effect
- reinstalled windows and all actual drivers from VIA, ATI and others - no effect
- reinstalled SH3 with and without GWX - no effect
- changed RAM - no effect
- changed my coffee brand late at night - no effect

So far.... U-115 is lost with all hands...

bigboywooly · 11-25-07, 10:41 AM

Try an older video driver not the latest ones

PhantomLord · 11-25-07, 11:34 AM

Fixed this thing at least.

The trick was to FIRST install DX9c and thereafter the graphic drivers.....never had that before.

Thanks for all your hints and support. Time to set sail again

bigboywooly · 11-25-07, 11:37 AM

Good news indeed

11-23-07, 01:53 PM	#1
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	[TEQ] Again: "can not initialize 3d engine" Everytime i want to start SH3 i got this error message: "can not initialize 3d engine" System specs: Windows XP prof. SP2 Mainboard ASRock K7Upgrade-880 <----a new board Athlon XP 2600+ 1GB DDR-RAM ATI Radeon 9550 256MB SB-Live Windows is a totally new install, also all actual drivers for all components, DX9c Same things happen with other games like SH4, Stalker (Xray-engine-message appears with no error description). All this happens since the new board is built in. Before there was an Asus A7V266-E, making no problems. I´ve tried so many google matches for this error.....not one of millions of hints and tricks worked. I´ll go to sleep now.....broken hearted...no tonnage tonight.... If someone knows something.....you´ll find me in the 3rd drawer of my office desk __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-23-07, 02:29 PM	#2
U49 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: D/Niedersachsen Posts: 777 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've had that problem before. Usually after a few alt-tab in and out of the game or after starting the mission editor in parallel. I always got rid of that after a reboot... But I'm not sure what exactly the cause may be __________________ SH3 battle capability upgrades: GWX2.0, JSGME2.0, SH3Commander 2.7, SH3Gen 0.8.2, TorpDamageMod 2.0, OLC GUI 1.1.5 Awaiting combat readiness for GWX2.0: SH4 effetcs for SH3, SH3Weather 1.5 Following development of: www.subwolves.com Realism: 90%

11-23-07, 07:18 PM	#5
Foghladh_mhara Commander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 473 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Well theres a coincidence. Got that tonight for the first time. My monitor refresh rate only goes to 60 or 75 Hz and it was set at the lower one. Thinking of throwing the whole pc out the window. I hate this thing __________________ The beauty of not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise without any of the stress that might normally precede such a venture

11-24-07, 02:36 AM	#6
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	The problem is still alive. I forgot to say i´ve a TFT-monitor here. Frequency is, was, and will be 60Hz forever. With the old mainboard everything was fine at 75Hz also. update There are some people with the same prob in another forum with other games. A wrong windows-service was the cause. So i´ve installed windows again.....guess what.....doesn´t work. __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~ Last edited by PhantomLord; 11-24-07 at 05:08 AM.

11-24-07, 02:39 PM	#7
Subject Sparky Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 158 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I got that message after XP re-install. Didn't touch SH3 installation and first time I tried to start SH3, got that message. Solved it by installing DirectX from SH3-disc. __________________

11-23-07, 04:47 PM	#3
T.Von Hogan Planesman Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 190 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Check your monitor refresh rate. If the frequency is too high you will receive that message.

11-23-07, 05:54 PM	#4
DarkStar173rd Watch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 27 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	T. Von Hogan is right, but like me you want to run at a higher res. I run at 100 then you have to start in 1024 by 768....before starting SH3. Hope that gets you out of the drawer.

11-25-07, 08:56 AM	#8
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	- Changed AGP-rate to 4x - no effect - disabled accelerations - no effect - reinstalled windows and all actual drivers from VIA, ATI and others - no effect - reinstalled SH3 with and without GWX - no effect - changed RAM - no effect - changed my coffee brand late at night - no effect So far.... U-115 is lost with all hands... __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-25-07, 10:41 AM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Try an older video driver not the latest ones __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

11-25-07, 11:34 AM	#10
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Fixed this thing at least. The trick was to FIRST install DX9c and thereafter the graphic drivers.....never had that before. Thanks for all your hints and support. Time to set sail again __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-25-07, 11:37 AM	#11
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Good news indeed __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41