I think this cop is in trouble........

AVGWarhawk · 11-21-07, 02:45 PM

Watch the video..............is he over his bounds with excessive force? I'm thinking yes.............

stabiz · 11-21-07, 03:14 PM

Holy crap. This video made me furious. I hope someone can give us an update on what happens to Adolf Trooper after this outrage.

Peto · 11-21-07, 03:22 PM

Looks like someone who'll be hustlin' corn nuts at the Pigly Wiggly in the future to me. What a P***k.

11-21-07, 03:26 PM

This is why one shouldn't trust the police. I'm not supprised at the officers behavior but I am outraged by it. The police officer should be in jail for assault.
Another good reason for an armed populace.

AVGWarhawk · 11-21-07, 03:33 PM

I suspect he will be picking trash up along the same route he did this little number. All of this over a speeding ticket.

Peto · 11-21-07, 03:38 PM

Yep. And the guy did have a right to know what he was signing, how fast he was going etc. Cops like this make the lives of good Policemen much more difficult.

Unfortunately, it seems there is an increase in more Rambo attitudes getting into law enforcement these days...

AVGWarhawk · 11-21-07, 03:43 PM

I reviewed this again. After he is down, he asks why and the cop says.'You did not sign the ticket and did not follow my instructions.' Uh, not signing the ticket requires 50000 volts to pass throw your body? WTH? Not only that, the guy did turn around but had his head turned back asking what is wrong with him. Taser soon to follow.

Furthermore, if you listen closely the cop is getting aggressive with the driver the first time he approaches the car. You can hear it in his voice. This cop is a loose cannon and needs to be polishing the cruisers hub caps and kept away from guns/tasers.

11-21-07, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I reviewed this again. After he is down, he asks why and the cop says.'You did not sign the ticket and did not follow my instructions.' Uh, not signing the ticket requires 50000 volts to pass throw your body? WTH? Not only that, the guy did turn around but had his head turned back asking what is wrong with him. Taser soon to follow.

Furthermore, if you listen closely the cop is getting aggressive with the driver the first time he approaches the car. You can hear it in his voice. This cop is a loose cannon and needs to be polishing the cruisers hub caps and kept away from guns/tasers.

The cop also lies about when he placed him under arrest. He (the cop) knows it too. Miranda wasn't given even after being asked for. I see a big law suit. The chief of police should also be fired.

Someone in the department didn't like it either or we wouldn't be seeing this vid.

August · 11-21-07, 04:00 PM

Signing a traffic ticket is not an admission of guilt. It is a promise to either pay the fine or appear in court later on to answer the charge. Remember ,ALL violations of the law regardless of severity subject the perpetrator(s) to arrest by civil authority.

For that particular violation a signed promise to appear in court (or pay) is good enough for the police to justify releasing you on your own recognizance until then. On the other hand refusing to sign forces the cop to ensure your presence in court by arresting you.

Now as the cop attempts to arrest the guy, notice that he puts his hands in his pocket and begins moving back to his vehicle, maybe going for a gun or other weapon or maybe intending to drive away who knows? But by doing that he was resisting the cops attempt to arrest him which elevates the situation from a misdemeanor to a felony.

The sad thing about this is the guys own actions elevated the situation from probably just a warning.

Excessive force? Eh, easy for us to say when we're not the ones having to decide in a split second what to do.

Having said all that though, Utah cops suck.

Peto · 11-21-07, 04:06 PM

He has to tell the guy what he is signing though. I wouldn't sign anything just because a policeman told me to.

AVGWarhawk · 11-21-07, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I reviewed this again. After he is down, he asks why and the cop says.'You did not sign the ticket and did not follow my instructions.' Uh, not signing the ticket requires 50000 volts to pass throw your body? WTH? Not only that, the guy did turn around but had his head turned back asking what is wrong with him. Taser soon to follow.

Furthermore, if you listen closely the cop is getting aggressive with the driver the first time he approaches the car. You can hear it in his voice. This cop is a loose cannon and needs to be polishing the cruisers hub caps and kept away from guns/tasers.

The cop also lies about when he placed him under arrest. He (the cop) knows it too. Miranda wasn't given even after being asked for. I see a big law suit. The chief of police should also be fired.

Someone in the department didn't like it either or we wouldn't be seeing this vid.

Actually his pregnant girl friend got the tapes from the sheriffs office and posted on the net.

11-21-07, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by waste gate

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I reviewed this again. After he is down, he asks why and the cop says.'You did not sign the ticket and did not follow my instructions.' Uh, not signing the ticket requires 50000 volts to pass throw your body? WTH? Not only that, the guy did turn around but had his head turned back asking what is wrong with him. Taser soon to follow.

Furthermore, if you listen closely the cop is getting aggressive with the driver the first time he approaches the car. You can hear it in his voice. This cop is a loose cannon and needs to be polishing the cruisers hub caps and kept away from guns/tasers.

The cop also lies about when he placed him under arrest. He (the cop) knows it too. Miranda wasn't given even after being asked for. I see a big law suit. The chief of police should also be fired.

Someone in the department didn't like it either or we wouldn't be seeing this vid.

Actually his pregnant girl friend got the tapes from the sheriffs office and posted on the net.

Thanks for the clarification AVGWarhawk. This is an outrage if nothing else the cop shot the man in the back. How much of a threat could he have been. I hope the couple saved the shirt with the wholes and the burn marks.

mookiemookie · 11-21-07, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by August

But by doing that he was resisting the cops attempt to arrest him which elevates the situation from a misdemeanor to a felony.

Tasers are not compliance devices. They are a less than lethal alternative to shooting someone. This cop was way over the line.

11-21-07, 04:32 PM

Back in 1991, my last speeding ticket, I was also asked to sign the summons. The officer explained that it was nothing more than a confirmation of issue. I still refused to sign the summons. The cop simply wrote in the place for my signature that I refused to sign. No out of the vehicle, no taser, no arrest.

XabbaRus · 11-21-07, 04:39 PM

No rights were read or explanation. It is a clear case of abuse of power.

11-21-07, 02:45 PM	#1
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I think this cop is in trouble........ Watch the video..............is he over his bounds with excessive force? I'm thinking yes............. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-21-07, 03:14 PM	#2
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Holy crap. This video made me furious. I hope someone can give us an update on what happens to Adolf Trooper after this outrage. __________________

11-21-07, 03:22 PM	#3
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Looks like someone who'll be hustlin' corn nuts at the Pigly Wiggly in the future to me. What a P***k. __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.

11-21-07, 03:33 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I suspect he will be picking trash up along the same route he did this little number. All of this over a speeding ticket. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-21-07, 03:38 PM	#6
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Yep. And the guy did have a right to know what he was signing, how fast he was going etc. Cops like this make the lives of good Policemen much more difficult. Unfortunately, it seems there is an increase in more Rambo attitudes getting into law enforcement these days... __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.

11-21-07, 03:26 PM	#4
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	This is why one shouldn't trust the police. I'm not supprised at the officers behavior but I am outraged by it. The police officer should be in jail for assault. Another good reason for an armed populace.

11-21-07, 03:43 PM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I reviewed this again. After he is down, he asks why and the cop says.'You did not sign the ticket and did not follow my instructions.' Uh, not signing the ticket requires 50000 volts to pass throw your body? WTH? Not only that, the guy did turn around but had his head turned back asking what is wrong with him. Taser soon to follow. Furthermore, if you listen closely the cop is getting aggressive with the driver the first time he approaches the car. You can hear it in his voice. This cop is a loose cannon and needs to be polishing the cruisers hub caps and kept away from guns/tasers. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-21-07, 04:00 PM	#9
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Signing a traffic ticket is not an admission of guilt. It is a promise to either pay the fine or appear in court later on to answer the charge. Remember ,ALL violations of the law regardless of severity subject the perpetrator(s) to arrest by civil authority. For that particular violation a signed promise to appear in court (or pay) is good enough for the police to justify releasing you on your own recognizance until then. On the other hand refusing to sign forces the cop to ensure your presence in court by arresting you. Now as the cop attempts to arrest the guy, notice that he puts his hands in his pocket and begins moving back to his vehicle, maybe going for a gun or other weapon or maybe intending to drive away who knows? But by doing that he was resisting the cops attempt to arrest him which elevates the situation from a misdemeanor to a felony. The sad thing about this is the guys own actions elevated the situation from probably just a warning. Excessive force? Eh, easy for us to say when we're not the ones having to decide in a split second what to do. Having said all that though, Utah cops suck. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

11-21-07, 04:06 PM	#10
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	He has to tell the guy what he is signing though. I wouldn't sign anything just because a policeman told me to. __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.

11-21-07, 04:32 PM	#14
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Back in 1991, my last speeding ticket, I was also asked to sign the summons. The officer explained that it was nothing more than a confirmation of issue. I still refused to sign the summons. The cop simply wrote in the place for my signature that I refused to sign. No out of the vehicle, no taser, no arrest.

11-21-07, 04:39 PM	#15
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No rights were read or explanation. It is a clear case of abuse of power. __________________