rediculess windspeeds in SH4

momo55 · 11-10-07, 08:36 AM

What are the highest windspeeds you all noticed in game till now ?

Because i seen 14m/sec as highest value and thats rediculess low.
Thats 50.4 km/h (27.2 kts)

We just had stormconditions here at the nordsea and channel (where i live) with windspeeds of 130k/h (+-70kts) at sea.
You easely can double these windspeeds for the tropical storms in the pacific area isn't it?

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwjrf0gZjIE

Sailor Steve · 11-10-07, 11:30 AM

That was/is also true in SH3. It seems that they didn't want the higher seas which would cause massive slowdowns. In SH3 there was a 'Big Waves' mod, which doubled the size of the waves in any wind condition. The maker tried to make 45 m/s winds, and it worked, but when he reloaded it defaulted back to 15 m/s. So far that was the best that anyone could do to fix it.

dcb · 11-10-07, 12:02 PM

As far as I remember, the limitation is in place because of the way ships are modeled. If they have decks awash, they take damage, so bigger waves cause smaller vessels to sink by themselves.

Peto · 11-10-07, 01:38 PM

60 foot waves would be cool but--then again--I didn't pay 50 bucks to get sea-sick

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leovampire · 11-10-07, 04:23 PM

When I did Living Breathing Ocean I designed the ocean to simulate that wind speed as best as possable but if the wave's are too high then smaller ship's start to sink and in port ship's also get destroyed hitting the dock's.

Originaly in the game the scale of the ocean was so far off even the sub's would not ride the wave's proper and floated accross from one wave to the other and even some of the ship's did.

I got everything as realistic as possable with out major problems with ship's and so that sub's could still recharge batteries.

This is how the ocean use to look and work before my work and what the sub's did in those sea's.

FIREWALL · 11-10-07, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peto

60 foot waves would be cool but--then again--I didn't pay 50 bucks to get sea-sick

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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

hyperion2206 · 11-10-07, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dcb

As far as I remember, the limitation is in place because of the way ships are modeled. If they have decks awash, they take damage, so bigger waves cause smaller vessels to sink by themselves.

But that's what small ships do in really bad storms: sinking. I demand that this is going to be fixed. If ships don't start to think in storms after patch 1.4 I'll have to return the game.
Just kidding.:rotfl:

FooFighters · 11-11-07, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

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Originally Posted by dcb

As far as I remember, the limitation is in place because of the way ships are modeled. If they have decks awash, they take damage, so bigger waves cause smaller vessels to sink by themselves.

But that's what small ships do in really bad storms: sinking. I demand that this is going to be fixed. If ships don't start to think in storms after patch 1.4 I'll have to return the game.
Just kidding.:rotfl:

But if all ships sink during stormy conditions, this will be a boring game.
Nothing to shoot at anymore :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sailor Steve · 11-11-07, 02:08 PM

Actually some smaller ships sank less in storms. One of the negatives about the Flower class corvette was Nicholas Monsarrat's observation that they would "roll on wet grass". On the other hand, destroyers tended to plow through waves and take on water, while the smaller, tubbier corvettes would ride over the biggest waves.

11-10-07, 08:36 AM	#1
momo55 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 297 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	rediculess windspeeds in SH4 What are the highest windspeeds you all noticed in game till now ? Because i seen 14m/sec as highest value and thats rediculess low. Thats 50.4 km/h (27.2 kts) We just had stormconditions here at the nordsea and channel (where i live) with windspeeds of 130k/h (+-70kts) at sea. You easely can double these windspeeds for the tropical storms in the pacific area isn't it? http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwjrf0gZjIE __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing , but in rising up every time we fail . Last edited by momo55; 11-10-07 at 09:51 AM.

11-10-07, 11:30 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That was/is also true in SH3. It seems that they didn't want the higher seas which would cause massive slowdowns. In SH3 there was a 'Big Waves' mod, which doubled the size of the waves in any wind condition. The maker tried to make 45 m/s winds, and it worked, but when he reloaded it defaulted back to 15 m/s. So far that was the best that anyone could do to fix it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-10-07, 04:23 PM	#5
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	15 mps wind's is the highest both SHIII and SHIV go When I did Living Breathing Ocean I designed the ocean to simulate that wind speed as best as possable but if the wave's are too high then smaller ship's start to sink and in port ship's also get destroyed hitting the dock's. Originaly in the game the scale of the ocean was so far off even the sub's would not ride the wave's proper and floated accross from one wave to the other and even some of the ship's did. I got everything as realistic as possable with out major problems with ship's and so that sub's could still recharge batteries. This is how the ocean use to look and work before my work and what the sub's did in those sea's. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

11-11-07, 02:08 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Actually some smaller ships sank less in storms. One of the negatives about the Flower class corvette was Nicholas Monsarrat's observation that they would "roll on wet grass". On the other hand, destroyers tended to plow through waves and take on water, while the smaller, tubbier corvettes would ride over the biggest waves. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-10-07, 12:02 PM	#3
dcb Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 845 Downloads: 544 Uploads: 0	As far as I remember, the limitation is in place because of the way ships are modeled. If they have decks awash, they take damage, so bigger waves cause smaller vessels to sink by themselves.

11-10-07, 01:38 PM	#4
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	60 foot waves would be cool but--then again--I didn't pay 50 bucks to get sea-sick !