Tech Help Needed!!

LeafsFan · 11-04-07, 02:42 PM

HI,

I have a 1 year old computer, with the following specs.

Pentium D 820 2.6 GHZ
2 Gigs ram
ATI 1300 pro video card.

I am running GWX really nicely, but after installing SH4 the other day, I noticed the game set me up in Medium graphics, and even the panning with binocs is not exactly as smooth as butter. I am planning to wait for the 1.4 patch before i start seriously playing SH4 heavily.

I am wondering if my video card is holding me back ? I suspect it is ?

Is my CPU fast enough for the game ?

How high up the bleeding edge of technology ( read, how much will upgrades cost, will I have to go to get this running smoothly?

HB

Argus00 · 11-04-07, 04:17 PM

The minimum requirements to run SH4:
2GHz processor (Pentium IV or equivalent AMD Athlon)
1GB of RAM
DirectX 9 video card with Pixel Shader v2.0, Vertex Shader v2.0, and 128MB of RAM
DirectX compatible sound card
about 5.5-6GB of space on your HDD.

The game options will allow you to activate or deactivate different visual aspects that can increase or decrease performance. Of course, in the minimum requirements PC you will run with most options OFF.

A recommended system:
3GHz processor
2GB of RAM
DirectX 9 video card with PS 3.0, VS 3.0 and 256MB of RAM.

THE_MASK · 11-04-07, 04:31 PM

Well if this helps , i have a pentium 2.4 , 1 gig of ram and an ati x800 pro . 1024 x 768 x 74 hz resolution . All graphics settings in SH4 max but no dynamic fog . Graphics card 3d standard settings is on balanced . Outside views are 22fps in a storm . I would say upgrade your card to something better than what i have .

swdw · 11-04-07, 11:08 PM

So you know, in 2005 the x1300 was considered a low mid range card for gaming in the x1--- series. So chances are good the card is holding you back.

Have you tried overclocking the card using ATi Tool or Riva Tuner? Might get more performance there.

On upgrading, Since you didn't say whether you have AGP or PCI-e here are some options:

On NVidia cards, stay away from the GS versions if you're looking for the best performance out of the card.

Highest end cards are the Ati 2900 and GeForce 8800 (8800 is best) PCI-e only

Cards you can get for under $250 consist of
PCI-e

DX10
GeForce 8600 GT or GTS
ATi- 2600 Pro or XT (drivers need maturing) Also understand this card runs very hot w/o a good cooler (from rage3d.com)
OC version of both cards available

DX9
X1950 pro or XT- blazing fast for price
Geforce 7800 GT or better

GeForce 6800 GT or better
X1650 Xt or better

AGP

DX10
ATi 2600- Again, drivers need maturing, do not rely on passive cooling

DX9
ATi 1950
ATi 1650
GeForce 7800 (I'm not sure but I think the GS version is the only AGP one- anyone know?)
GeForce 7600
Geforce 6800

All Dx9 cards listed support shader 3.0

Google these cards and look for the speed tests.

Check prices through Pricewatch.com, pricegrabber.com, nextag.com

Also, check the stores out through www.resellerratings.com. Some really low cost stores get high ratings on the pricing sites by having their employees post feedback.

Reseller ratings will give you a more honest picture- saved me a headache more than once.

On a final note- the ATi 2400 is another Dx10 card, but has not been recommended for gaming. I'm putting one of these into my old machine for HD playback to our HDTV. I can run SH4 with it and let you know how it looks. (Actually, have already run SH4 with it, but it is handicapped by the 1.3GHz processor currently in the machine, when the faster processor arrives, will give it a shot, but I can already tell you drivers are a big headache with the AGP version)

LeafsFan · 11-05-07, 09:13 AM

Hi,

I should have said I had a PCI-E slot for this. I think the ATi x 1950 seems to be a good choice for me. I am a little frightened of installing a card with heat issues.

Thanks for the help!!

HB

LeafsFan · 11-05-07, 09:45 PM

Of course,

I have hit a snag. My dell has a 305 watt power source. I think that about kills my hope for an upgrade.

HB

11-04-07, 02:42 PM	#1
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Tech Help Needed!! HI, I have a 1 year old computer, with the following specs. Pentium D 820 2.6 GHZ 2 Gigs ram ATI 1300 pro video card. I am running GWX really nicely, but after installing SH4 the other day, I noticed the game set me up in Medium graphics, and even the panning with binocs is not exactly as smooth as butter. I am planning to wait for the 1.4 patch before i start seriously playing SH4 heavily. I am wondering if my video card is holding me back ? I suspect it is ? Is my CPU fast enough for the game ? How high up the bleeding edge of technology ( read, how much will upgrades cost, will I have to go to get this running smoothly? HB

11-04-07, 04:17 PM	#2
Argus00 Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 153 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The minimum requirements to run SH4: 2GHz processor (Pentium IV or equivalent AMD Athlon) 1GB of RAM DirectX 9 video card with Pixel Shader v2.0, Vertex Shader v2.0, and 128MB of RAM DirectX compatible sound card about 5.5-6GB of space on your HDD. The game options will allow you to activate or deactivate different visual aspects that can increase or decrease performance. Of course, in the minimum requirements PC you will run with most options OFF. A recommended system: 3GHz processor 2GB of RAM DirectX 9 video card with PS 3.0, VS 3.0 and 256MB of RAM. __________________ ________________________ Semper ubi sub ubi ubique.

11-04-07, 11:08 PM	#4
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	So you know, in 2005 the x1300 was considered a low mid range card for gaming in the x1--- series. So chances are good the card is holding you back. Have you tried overclocking the card using ATi Tool or Riva Tuner? Might get more performance there. On upgrading, Since you didn't say whether you have AGP or PCI-e here are some options: On NVidia cards, stay away from the GS versions if you're looking for the best performance out of the card. Highest end cards are the Ati 2900 and GeForce 8800 (8800 is best) PCI-e only Cards you can get for under $250 consist of PCI-e DX10 GeForce 8600 GT or GTS ATi- 2600 Pro or XT (drivers need maturing) Also understand this card runs very hot w/o a good cooler (from rage3d.com) OC version of both cards available DX9 X1950 pro or XT- blazing fast for price Geforce 7800 GT or better GeForce 6800 GT or better X1650 Xt or better AGP DX10 ATi 2600- Again, drivers need maturing, do not rely on passive cooling DX9 ATi 1950 ATi 1650 GeForce 7800 (I'm not sure but I think the GS version is the only AGP one- anyone know?) GeForce 7600 Geforce 6800 All Dx9 cards listed support shader 3.0 Google these cards and look for the speed tests. Check prices through Pricewatch.com, pricegrabber.com, nextag.com Also, check the stores out through www.resellerratings.com. Some really low cost stores get high ratings on the pricing sites by having their employees post feedback. Reseller ratings will give you a more honest picture- saved me a headache more than once. On a final note- the ATi 2400 is another Dx10 card, but has not been recommended for gaming. I'm putting one of these into my old machine for HD playback to our HDTV. I can run SH4 with it and let you know how it looks. (Actually, have already run SH4 with it, but it is handicapped by the 1.3GHz processor currently in the machine, when the faster processor arrives, will give it a shot, but I can already tell you drivers are a big headache with the AGP version) __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10 Last edited by swdw; 11-04-07 at 11:25 PM.

11-04-07, 04:31 PM	#3
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Well if this helps , i have a pentium 2.4 , 1 gig of ram and an ati x800 pro . 1024 x 768 x 74 hz resolution . All graphics settings in SH4 max but no dynamic fog . Graphics card 3d standard settings is on balanced . Outside views are 22fps in a storm . I would say upgrade your card to something better than what i have .

11-05-07, 09:13 AM	#5
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hi, I should have said I had a PCI-E slot for this. I think the ATi x 1950 seems to be a good choice for me. I am a little frightened of installing a card with heat issues. Thanks for the help!! HB

11-05-07, 09:45 PM	#6
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Of course, I have hit a snag. My dell has a 305 watt power source. I think that about kills my hope for an upgrade. HB