night hunting

von hally · 10-23-07, 11:01 AM

does anyone have a procedure of identifying ships at night? gwx disables the auto identify, which i agree does add to the realism, but short of pushing my monitors brightnes all the way up (cheating a little eh?) i have no way of knowing the nationality of the contact im observing. is tracking the target until daylight the only way to do it properly.
secondly guys, ive wolfies tweek pack installed over gwx. i would like the time compression to cut to realtime if any ships are in my vicinity BUT also be able to increase time compression whilst submerged from depth charging etc, as ive found that after surviving a charge, it takes the escort an age to get back to its convoy, i think its the hunter and pray states in the tweek pack thats stopping me doing this, whats the best settings for these

Sailor Steve · 10-23-07, 11:08 AM

Welcome to the war as experienced by the real u-boatmen (well, at least as far as night-identifying goes). Look harder!:rotfl:

Rule of thumb: if it's in a convoy, it's fair game.

von hally · 10-23-07, 11:11 AM

i would agree that a convoy would be fair game, but im currently in1940 and four juicy large cargos passed right in front of my periscope.....pity they were french
DOH!!!

Hakahura · 10-23-07, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Welcome to the war as experienced by the real u-boatmen (well, at least as far as night-identifying goes). Look harder!:rotfl:

Rule of thumb: if it's in a convoy, it's fair game.

What Steve said, and er.......

BE MORE AGGRESIVE!

von hally · 10-23-07, 11:15 AM

what kind of negative renown are we talking for a large neutral cargo???

seafarer · 10-23-07, 12:03 PM

Most neutrals I've seen had running lights on and search lights aimed at their flag.

If it's a darkened ship, and clearly trying to slip along in the night, it's likely fair game.

Oh, accept for those occasional German flagged ships traveling darkened (some other u-boat sank one of those off S. Norway when we were in the general area supporting the Norwegian campaign efforts, but it wasn't us - I swear - we was, err, somewheres else, yeah, yeah, that's it, we was somewheres else, wasn't us - I swear!).

Sailor Steve · 10-23-07, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by von hally

what kind of negative renown are we talking for a large neutral cargo???

The same as the positive renown you'd get paid if it was enemy. Unless you go into the files and change neutral renown to zero...or positive. It would be cheating to use that to poach on them alone, but in convoys they really did sink them, so...

Rykaird · 10-23-07, 05:17 PM

I shoot anyone running dark. I have on occasion sunk a neutral ship, but hey, it's all part of the experience. Have a good remainder of the patrol and it won't really impact your career. You may, optionally, choose to shed a short tear for the poor neutral guy, but since he's probably French or American and you're eventually going to be hunting him with a license anyway, I wouldn't cry into my sauerkraut about it.

As Tommy would say: "Er, umm, casualties of war, you know, old bean, what, what, cheerio." Silly Tommy.

Also, sinking a neutral makes a nice story for the grandkids, except, of course, that I will be dead before 1944. So it isn't like a few black spots on my record tends to last very long anyway.

"When in doubt, torp it out!"

Stealth Hunter · 10-23-07, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by von hally

does anyone have a procedure of identifying ships at night?

Eat carrots, turn off the lights, play during the darkness of night...

Good luck, boyo..

Hanomag · 10-23-07, 08:25 PM

In 1940 Grid BE I saw some of the biggest juiciest tankers I have ever seen as they got closer I expected to see Exxon on the hull. My finger was hovering over the fire button.

No escorts at all!

I was running on the surface in broad daylight, turns out they were from Ireland

...where'd they get those supertankers? sheesh.

Anyways night or day careful what you shoot.

PS a year later saw the same exact convoy just west of Spain Grid CG .

Stealth Hunter · 10-23-07, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanomag

In 1940 Grid BE I saw some of the biggest juiciest tankers I have ever seen as they got closer I expected to see Exxon on the hull. My finger was hovering over the fire button.

No escorts at all!

I was running on the surface in broad daylight, turns out they were from Ireland

...where'd they get those supertankers? sheesh.

Anyways night or day careful what you shoot.

PS a year later saw the same exact convoy just west of Spain Grid CG .

Bah, you should have sunk them anyway!

Who cares if they're Irishmen? The Irish built some of the finest ships for the Brits. Make them all swim to Hell...:rotfl:

von hally · 10-24-07, 02:51 PM

thanx as usual guys, i have noticed ships with their flags illuminated by search lights, i should have clicked to this really, so from now on, any merchants trying to sneak their way through the atlantic will be slipping beneath the waves ...if ive anything to do with it!!

U49 · 10-24-07, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by von hally

thanx as usual guys, i have noticed ships with their flags illuminated by search lights, i should have clicked to this really, so from now on, any merchants trying to sneak their way through the atlantic will be slipping beneath the waves ...if ive anything to do with it!!

I great man once said:

There are two kinds of ships. SUBMARINES AND TARGETS!

I cant' find out his name again....

3Jane · 10-24-07, 03:44 PM

With experience you will be able to recognise the profiles of most ships, even in bad light. If you need to check the details of a ship, use the uzo or periscope if submerged for the recognition manual.

PapaG39 · 10-24-07, 03:47 PM

If they are French...Shoot them! Don't worry, no one will get mad except the French.
If nothing else, do it just for grinns...lol

10-23-07, 11:01 AM	#1
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	night hunting does anyone have a procedure of identifying ships at night? gwx disables the auto identify, which i agree does add to the realism, but short of pushing my monitors brightnes all the way up (cheating a little eh?) i have no way of knowing the nationality of the contact im observing. is tracking the target until daylight the only way to do it properly. secondly guys, ive wolfies tweek pack installed over gwx. i would like the time compression to cut to realtime if any ships are in my vicinity BUT also be able to increase time compression whilst submerged from depth charging etc, as ive found that after surviving a charge, it takes the escort an age to get back to its convoy, i think its the hunter and pray states in the tweek pack thats stopping me doing this, whats the best settings for these

10-23-07, 11:08 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Welcome to the war as experienced by the real u-boatmen (well, at least as far as night-identifying goes). Look harder!:rotfl: Rule of thumb: if it's in a convoy, it's fair game. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-23-07, 12:03 PM	#6
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Most neutrals I've seen had running lights on and search lights aimed at their flag. If it's a darkened ship, and clearly trying to slip along in the night, it's likely fair game. Oh, accept for those occasional German flagged ships traveling darkened (some other u-boat sank one of those off S. Norway when we were in the general area supporting the Norwegian campaign efforts, but it wasn't us - I swear - we was, err, somewheres else, yeah, yeah, that's it, we was somewheres else, wasn't us - I swear!). __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

10-23-07, 08:25 PM	#10
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	In 1940 Grid BE I saw some of the biggest juiciest tankers I have ever seen as they got closer I expected to see Exxon on the hull. My finger was hovering over the fire button. No escorts at all! I was running on the surface in broad daylight, turns out they were from Ireland ...where'd they get those supertankers? sheesh. Anyways night or day careful what you shoot. PS a year later saw the same exact convoy just west of Spain Grid CG . __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

10-24-07, 03:44 PM	#14
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	With experience you will be able to recognise the profiles of most ships, even in bad light. If you need to check the details of a ship, use the uzo or periscope if submerged for the recognition manual. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

10-23-07, 11:11 AM	#3
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	i would agree that a convoy would be fair game, but im currently in1940 and four juicy large cargos passed right in front of my periscope.....pity they were french DOH!!!

10-23-07, 11:15 AM	#5
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	what kind of negative renown are we talking for a large neutral cargo???

10-23-07, 05:17 PM	#8
Rykaird Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I shoot anyone running dark. I have on occasion sunk a neutral ship, but hey, it's all part of the experience. Have a good remainder of the patrol and it won't really impact your career. You may, optionally, choose to shed a short tear for the poor neutral guy, but since he's probably French or American and you're eventually going to be hunting him with a license anyway, I wouldn't cry into my sauerkraut about it. As Tommy would say: "Er, umm, casualties of war, you know, old bean, what, what, cheerio." Silly Tommy. Also, sinking a neutral makes a nice story for the grandkids, except, of course, that I will be dead before 1944. So it isn't like a few black spots on my record tends to last very long anyway. "When in doubt, torp it out!"

10-24-07, 02:51 PM	#12
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	thanx as usual guys, i have noticed ships with their flags illuminated by search lights, i should have clicked to this really, so from now on, any merchants trying to sneak their way through the atlantic will be slipping beneath the waves ...if ive anything to do with it!!

10-24-07, 03:47 PM	#15
PapaG39 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 297 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	If they are French...Shoot them! Don't worry, no one will get mad except the French. If nothing else, do it just for grinns...lol