Calculating Range left based on fuel left

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 04:30 PM

How are you guys doing this.

I've overlooked something somewhere. There's no button for it like in SH3, and I went into my command.cfg to try to set a keyboard command for it, but there is no fuel estimations ranges in the command lines.

Just a Time to course end.

Are you guys doing it manually with a chart?

Please and Thank you.

Fincuan · 10-08-07, 04:36 PM

Trigger Maru adds the familiar button from SH3, so that's what I use. Easy and convenient

mookiemookie · 10-08-07, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fincuan

Trigger Maru adds the familiar button from SH3, so that's what I use. Easy and convenient

donut · 10-08-07, 04:41 PM

Click on range to end, @given speed/plotted distance,in chart tab.:hmm: Not sure about question correctly answered.

Make sure batteries are fully charged,or readings are off.

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 04:45 PM

I'm one of the few not using TM. If one of the TM boys would point me to the specific portion for adding just the fuel ranging, I'd appreciate it muchly.

In the meantime, I'll start reverse engineering....

Ducimus · 10-08-07, 04:52 PM

The command exists in the commands.cfg, the functionality is there, its just not mapped by default. I dont remember offhand the ID handle listed in the commands.cfg, so feel free to reverse enginner it. Files in question are the ordersbar.cfg (or was that upc?), and commands.cfg.

All you really have to do is map it to wherever you want it. Earlier in SH4, most folks just made a CNTRL + somehotkey command for it. you dont have to map it to the ordersbar.
I beleive CCIP developed the orginal commands.cfg mod, so that should be easier to D/L then the the TM modpack.

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 05:01 PM

Thanks Ducimus.

I have been looking at all the command lines in the stock Cfg. Perhaps it's just labeled in a way I wouldn't expect.

They're all in the 'Navigator' section, and it's probably the one that appears to be time based "Time to Range end"..

Going to test. I'm not worried about the icon for the order bar. I just want a key command to give me the report.

Thanks.

Ducimus · 10-08-07, 05:12 PM

>>I have been looking at all the command lines in the stock Cfg. Perhaps it's just labeled in a way I wouldn't expect.

It is labled in a way you woudlnt expect, thats why i dont remember what it is exaclty. If i had the ID handles in front of me i could point it out, but without the file infront of me i can't.

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 05:16 PM

I think I found her...

[Cmd259]
Name=Report_range_to_course_end
Ctxt=1
MnID=0x3F250004

I was originally thinking this would only give me the length of my plotted course.
Adding key command. Will be back.

Thanks again.

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 05:28 PM

Nope. Not it.

That did what I thought it would..gave me the distance in NM of my plotted course.

Still looking.

Ducimus · 10-08-07, 06:06 PM

Time to turn, or something like that. Search for "Turn", i think that was in it somewhere, not sure, its really obscure.

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 06:48 PM

Yep. Found it, but there's another problem.

This is the line...

[Cmd257]
Name=Report_time_to_turn
Ctxt=1
MnID=0x3F250002
Key0=0x47,s,"Shift+G"

Which the TM help file identifies as the right one, via the Shift+G;

Shift+G Maximum range at current speed
Ctrl+G Range to course end
G Time to course end

I had seen the "Time to turn" But thought that might literally be asking for "Time until next course change(turn)" like Sean Connery in Hunt for Red October. :rotfl:

So, here's the problem.

I set up the command line, attached it to "F", as in F for Fuel.

It works, but the Navigator responds " maximum Range at current speed is not available". So there's something else I'm missing. I was on the surface, moving at 11 knots for several hours (TC) when I hit the F.

Any ideas?

jazman · 10-08-07, 07:21 PM

I don't have TM, so I installed the Orders_Bar_AI1_Classic mod, it adds that button, among others (including weather report).

AVGWarhawk · 10-08-07, 07:53 PM

Weather report...I go up on the bridge.
Fuel estimation...once I hit a half tank or just below...time to head home.

Just the way I handle it. I get to the patrol area at 10 kts. I patrol at 6 knots. I only flank for end round. Plenty of fuel to get the job done.

MONOLITH · 10-08-07, 07:59 PM

I don't think there's a 'piece' I'm missing.

There must be a condition that's wrong; like you can't get an estimate while the batteries are charging or something.

Hopefully Ducimus will know. NefariousKoel has it in the orders bar mentioned above as well.

10-08-07, 04:30 PM	#1
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Calculating Range left based on fuel left How are you guys doing this. I've overlooked something somewhere. There's no button for it like in SH3, and I went into my command.cfg to try to set a keyboard command for it, but there is no fuel estimations ranges in the command lines. Just a Time to course end. Are you guys doing it manually with a chart? Please and Thank you. __________________

10-08-07, 04:41 PM	#4
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Ahoy Capt.MONOLITH Click on range to end, @given speed/plotted distance,in chart tab.:hmm: Not sure about question correctly answered.Make sure batteries are fully charged,or readings are off.

10-08-07, 04:45 PM	#5
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm one of the few not using TM. If one of the TM boys would point me to the specific portion for adding just the fuel ranging, I'd appreciate it muchly. In the meantime, I'll start reverse engineering.... __________________

10-08-07, 05:01 PM	#7
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks Ducimus. I have been looking at all the command lines in the stock Cfg. Perhaps it's just labeled in a way I wouldn't expect. They're all in the 'Navigator' section, and it's probably the one that appears to be time based "Time to Range end".. Going to test. I'm not worried about the icon for the order bar. I just want a key command to give me the report. Thanks. __________________

10-08-07, 05:16 PM	#9
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think I found her... [Cmd259] Name=Report_range_to_course_end Ctxt=1 MnID=0x3F250004 I was originally thinking this would only give me the length of my plotted course. Adding key command. Will be back. Thanks again. __________________

10-08-07, 04:36 PM	#2
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Trigger Maru adds the familiar button from SH3, so that's what I use. Easy and convenient

10-08-07, 04:52 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	The command exists in the commands.cfg, the functionality is there, its just not mapped by default. I dont remember offhand the ID handle listed in the commands.cfg, so feel free to reverse enginner it. Files in question are the ordersbar.cfg (or was that upc?), and commands.cfg. All you really have to do is map it to wherever you want it. Earlier in SH4, most folks just made a CNTRL + somehotkey command for it. you dont have to map it to the ordersbar. I beleive CCIP developed the orginal commands.cfg mod, so that should be easier to D/L then the the TM modpack.

10-08-07, 05:12 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>I have been looking at all the command lines in the stock Cfg. Perhaps it's just labeled in a way I wouldn't expect. It is labled in a way you woudlnt expect, thats why i dont remember what it is exaclty. If i had the ID handles in front of me i could point it out, but without the file infront of me i can't.

10-08-07, 05:28 PM	#10
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nope. Not it. That did what I thought it would..gave me the distance in NM of my plotted course. Still looking. __________________

10-08-07, 06:06 PM	#11
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Time to turn, or something like that. Search for "Turn", i think that was in it somewhere, not sure, its really obscure.

10-08-07, 06:48 PM	#12
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yep. Found it, but there's another problem. This is the line... [Cmd257] Name=Report_time_to_turn Ctxt=1 MnID=0x3F250002 Key0=0x47,s,"Shift+G" Which the TM help file identifies as the right one, via the Shift+G; Shift+G Maximum range at current speed Ctrl+G Range to course end G Time to course end I had seen the "Time to turn" But thought that might literally be asking for "Time until next course change(turn)" like Sean Connery in Hunt for Red October. :rotfl: So, here's the problem. I set up the command line, attached it to "F", as in F for Fuel. It works, but the Navigator responds " maximum Range at current speed is not available". So there's something else I'm missing. I was on the surface, moving at 11 knots for several hours (TC) when I hit the F. Any ideas? __________________

10-08-07, 07:21 PM	#13
jazman Commander Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crush Depth Posts: 449 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I don't have TM, so I installed the Orders_Bar_AI1_Classic mod, it adds that button, among others (including weather report). __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

10-08-07, 07:53 PM	#14
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Weather report...I go up on the bridge. Fuel estimation...once I hit a half tank or just below...time to head home. Just the way I handle it. I get to the patrol area at 10 kts. I patrol at 6 knots. I only flank for end round. Plenty of fuel to get the job done. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-08-07, 07:59 PM	#15
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't think there's a 'piece' I'm missing. There must be a condition that's wrong; like you can't get an estimate while the batteries are charging or something. Hopefully Ducimus will know. NefariousKoel has it in the orders bar mentioned above as well. __________________