Bush profanity outrage

Von Tonner · 10-07-07, 02:31 AM

Fall out from the taser, Kerry, Meyer debacle. Though I am an ardent supporter of freedom of speech it does have its limits - the editor must go.

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx...international/

SUBMAN1 · 10-07-07, 03:18 AM

I agree. Dropping that on your coffee table for your children to see.....

-S

Tchocky · 10-07-07, 08:26 AM

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I agree. Dropping that on your coffee table for your children to see.....

-S

Which is the prime concern of a student newspaper :p

Jimbuna · 10-07-07, 08:45 AM

A good example of overstepping the mark

Funny how politicians are allowed to get away with it though

DeepIron · 10-07-07, 09:38 AM

The end of the story is that he didn't get sacked... (The reviewing committee held up the First Amendment Rights! Yay!) but admonished the editor that the article was in poor taste, etc...

Jimbuna · 10-07-07, 11:14 AM

Good for them....however, that could cost them in advertising revenue :hmm:

SUBMAN1 · 10-07-07, 11:34 AM

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I agree. Dropping that on your coffee table for your children to see.....

-S

Which is the prime concern of a student newspaper :p

And it should be. I don't consider lack of age and experience to be an excuse for a poor job. If you are in a position, you should know how to handle that position, or face the consequences for screwing up.

-S

3Jane · 10-07-07, 11:39 AM

I say it every day, so far I haven't seen a drop in my income. But there again, I am self employed. :p

sunvalleyslim · 10-07-07, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I agree. Dropping that on your coffee table for your children to see.....

-S

Which is the prime concern of a student newspaper :p

And it should be. I don't consider lack of age and experience to be an excuse for a poor job. If you are in a position, you should know how to handle that position, or face the consequences for screwing up.

-S

Chock one up for you Subman1, I should reconsider my opinion.............of some of your posts.................Respectfully. Sunvalleyslim

TteFAboB · 10-07-07, 01:53 PM

**** 20 year olds and college newspapers.

Don't worry, I'm just aiming to provoke a debate on freedom of speech. You can get away with anything if you persuade the others that you're on the good side.

Sailor Steve · 10-07-07, 03:22 PM

"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them."
-Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

The Avon Lady · 10-07-07, 11:53 PM

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"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them."
-Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

All very nice and dandy except that Jefferson also intended for newspaper owners to NOT say what they don't want to. This paper is not owned by the student editor but by some formation between the college and the campus student organization. Like most any paper, they have the rights to create their own publishing guidelines. They did and this editor violated them.

TJ wouldn't have had a problem with this. Why do you? :hmm:

AVGWarhawk · 10-08-07, 12:18 PM

There are other ways of getting a debate going other than dropping the F bomb on the front cover of a newspaper.

STEED · 10-08-07, 12:27 PM

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University authorities in Colorado are to decide the fate of a student editor who published a huge “******* Bush” headline.

I say give him six of the best then another six of the best.

Ducimus · 10-08-07, 08:32 PM

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There are other ways of getting a debate going other than dropping the F bomb on the front cover of a newspaper.

I know im probably the only one who feels this way, but i think the "F bomb" is overhyped in terms of getting a point accross. I have an uncle whos an editor of a major news paper, and i recall this conversation He and I got into about language one day. I dont know how it started, but he wrote a few words down on a piece of paper and asked for my reaction or how clear the point was to me.

Then he wrote down "ye old F bomb" and asked me again. During this time it struck me odd how this articulate and well educated man who started in newspapers from being the printing press and worked his way up to editor would "stoop down" to use such a word, but in the end i saw his point. If you want to get a point across strongly, few things are as effective as a word like ****. In the end its not the word itself, but the context behind it. The choice of word is only a means of how strongly you deliver your point.

10-07-07, 02:31 AM	#1
Von Tonner Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 711 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Bush profanity outrage Fall out from the taser, Kerry, Meyer debacle. Though I am an ardent supporter of freedom of speech it does have its limits - the editor must go. http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx...international/

10-07-07, 03:18 AM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I agree. Dropping that on your coffee table for your children to see..... -S __________________

10-07-07, 08:45 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	A good example of overstepping the mark Funny how politicians are allowed to get away with it though __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-07-07, 09:38 AM	#5
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The end of the story is that he didn't get sacked... (The reviewing committee held up the First Amendment Rights! Yay!) but admonished the editor that the article was in poor taste, etc... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

10-07-07, 11:14 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Good for them....however, that could cost them in advertising revenue :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-07-07, 11:39 AM	#8
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I say it every day, so far I haven't seen a drop in my income. But there again, I am self employed. :p __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

10-07-07, 01:53 PM	#10
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	**** 20 year olds and college newspapers. Don't worry, I'm just aiming to provoke a debate on freedom of speech. You can get away with anything if you persuade the others that you're on the good side. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

10-07-07, 03:22 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them." -Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-08-07, 12:18 PM	#13
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	There are other ways of getting a debate going other than dropping the F bomb on the front cover of a newspaper. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road