[WIP] KDF Liner Wilhem Gustloff

AOTD_MadMax · 09-26-07, 10:42 AM

Hello Kaleun´s,

after i have finished my old KDF-Steam "Der Deutsche" the germans need their brand new KDF-Liner "Wilhelm Gustloff"/"Robert Ley".

So iam working on it !

This ship is cloned from the normal Liner.
I reworked the Hull a little bit smaler and spend much time on the bridge but some small changes i have to do until i can release this ship.

Here all my Liner´s

Hope you like it !

Greets

Maddy

bigboywooly · 09-26-07, 10:46 AM

klasse arbeit
?
lol

Nice work Maddy

denis_469 · 09-26-07, 10:53 AM

What I see? New excellent work from you!

Bismarck · 09-26-07, 10:55 AM

Yay even more negative renown!!!!! :P

Alex · 09-26-07, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOTD_MadMax

Hello Kaleun´s,

after i have finished my old KDF-Steam "Der Deutsche" the germans need their brand new KDF-Liner "Wilhelm Gustloff"/"Robert Ley".

So iam working on it !

[cowboy] YEEEEPEEEE !

[/cowboy]

:rotfl:

Seriously, awesome work, Maddy

!!

Jimbuna · 09-26-07, 12:30 PM

Looks very promising

melnibonian · 09-26-07, 01:14 PM

looking good

Kar · 09-26-07, 02:08 PM

nice

Woof1701 · 09-26-07, 02:23 PM

Since this ship is being modelled I want to emphasize the tragedy behind this and several other hospital, prisoner and refugee ships sunk in WW2 and put some things into perspective.

The "Wilhelm Gustloff" sunk by the Sovjet submarine S-13 (approx 9.500 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm...off_%28ship%29

The "General von Steuben" sunk by the Soviet submarine S-13 (approx 3- 4.000 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dampfsc...al_von_Steuben

The "Goya" sunk by the Soviet submarine L-3 (approx 6.000 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goya_%28ship%29

The "Armenia" sunk by German bombers (approx 5.000 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia_%28ship%29

The "Cap Arcona" sunk by the RAF (approx 8.000 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cap_Arcona

The "Junyo Maru" sunk by a British submarine (approx 5.620 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juny%C5%8D_Maru

in comparison
The "Titanic" sunk by collision with an iceberg and often named as the worst maritime catastrophe in the 20th century (approx 1.500 dead)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic

The Soviet submarine S-13 alone is responsible for 12.000 dead soldiers, crewmen and refugees within 12 days time noone's talking about anymore today.

I know we're all playing a game here, but when portraying a ship like this, I'd like to take the chance to remind people that behind this ship there's a history of more than 10.000 people that were on her and only a few of which survived to tell the tale.

sh3rules · 09-26-07, 02:45 PM

Thank you for the info. I guess the Titanic was partly a sensationalistic stunt on the part of the media (not to trivialize the tragedy, but bigger tragedies put it in perspective).

Since this is a GAME however, in the gameworld I'm just one badass Kaleun

GerritJ9 · 09-26-07, 03:34 PM

The translation of the text on the Dutch monument is as follows:

"Victims of the Japanese Sea Transports in South-East Asia

In memory of over 22,000 ABDA servicemen, civilians and romushas killed at sea,
of the more than 68,000 shipped by the Japanese as forced labourers in the "Hellships", during the Second World War in South-East Asia, 1941-1945.

Water does not wash away memory"

bigboywooly · 09-26-07, 04:07 PM

Interesting links Woof
Thanx for those

D.Kruger · 09-26-07, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOTD_MadMax

Hello Kaleun´s,

after i have finished my old KDF-Steam "Der Deutsche" the germans need their brand new KDF-Liner "Wilhelm Gustloff"/"Robert Ley".

So iam working on it !

[cowboy] YEEEEPEEEE !

[/cowboy]

:rotfl:

Seriously, awesome work, Maddy

!!

http://www.wilhelmgustloff.com/gallery_scalemodels.htm
http://www.modellmarine.de/phpwebsite/index.php
http://www.wilhelmgustloff.com/history.htm
:hmm:

Hunter · 09-27-07, 01:59 AM

Quote:

The Soviet submarine S-13 alone is responsible for 12.000 dead soldiers, crewmen and refugees within 12 days time noone's talking about anymore today.

Actually, the story of S-13 is well know in Russia. There were several documentaries and a movie "The next to the god' last year. S-13 was the only S-class submarine that suevived during the war in Baltic. It's captain Marinesko is usually belivedto be a victim of Stalin's regime since it wasn't awarded for thinking Wilhelm Gistloff and later removed from military service, staying unfamous, while being the most successful Soviet submariner of WW2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm...off_%28ship%29
Actually, WG should be colored into grey for the wartime.

to D.Kruger
Could you please post a to the source of this drawing? If there are any other I want them to my collection of ww2 ships.
http://static3.filefront.com/images/...gmbnyfpblz.jpg

D.Kruger · 09-27-07, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter

Quote:

The Soviet submarine S-13 alone is responsible for 12.000 dead soldiers, crewmen and refugees within 12 days time noone's talking about anymore today.

Actually, the story of S-13 is well know in Russia. There were several documentaries and a movie "The next to the god' last year. S-13 was the only S-class submarine that suevived during the war in Baltic. It's captain Marinesko is usually belivedto be a victim of Stalin's regime since it wasn't awarded for thinking Wilhelm Gistloff and later removed from military service, staying unfamous, while being the most successful Soviet submariner of WW2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm...off_%28ship%29
Actually, WG should be colored into grey for the wartime.

to D.Kruger
Could you please post a to the source of this drawing? If there are any other I want them to my collection of ww2 ships.
http://static3.filefront.com/images/...gmbnyfpblz.jpg

This drawing here
http://sabaoth.infoserve.pl/danzig-o.../gustloff.html

Good drawings "Wilhelm Gustloff" are necessary for me

09-26-07, 10:42 AM	#1
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	[WIP] KDF Liner Wilhem Gustloff Hello Kaleun´s, after i have finished my old KDF-Steam "Der Deutsche" the germans need their brand new KDF-Liner "Wilhelm Gustloff"/"Robert Ley". So iam working on it ! This ship is cloned from the normal Liner. I reworked the Hull a little bit smaler and spend much time on the bridge but some small changes i have to do until i can release this ship. Here all my Liner´s Hope you like it ! Greets Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

09-26-07, 10:46 AM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	klasse arbeit ? lol Nice work Maddy __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-26-07, 12:30 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Looks very promising __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-26-07, 01:14 PM	#7
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	looking good __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

09-26-07, 03:34 PM	#11
GerritJ9 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 389 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 6	The translation of the text on the Dutch monument is as follows: "Victims of the Japanese Sea Transports in South-East Asia In memory of over 22,000 ABDA servicemen, civilians and romushas killed at sea, of the more than 68,000 shipped by the Japanese as forced labourers in the "Hellships", during the Second World War in South-East Asia, 1941-1945. Water does not wash away memory" __________________ Quamvis Patiens Acris My SH3/SH4 mods: http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/GerritJ9

09-26-07, 10:53 AM	#3
denis_469 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Russia Posts: 700 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	What I see? New excellent work from you!

09-26-07, 10:55 AM	#4
Bismarck Medic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: At the bottom of the sea in my VIIC Posts: 164 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yay even more negative renown!!!!! :P

09-26-07, 02:08 PM	#8
Kar Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Czech republic Posts: 38 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	nice

09-26-07, 02:23 PM	#9
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Since this ship is being modelled I want to emphasize the tragedy behind this and several other hospital, prisoner and refugee ships sunk in WW2 and put some things into perspective. The "Wilhelm Gustloff" sunk by the Sovjet submarine S-13 (approx 9.500 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm...off_%28ship%29 The "General von Steuben" sunk by the Soviet submarine S-13 (approx 3- 4.000 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dampfsc...al_von_Steuben The "Goya" sunk by the Soviet submarine L-3 (approx 6.000 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goya_%28ship%29 The "Armenia" sunk by German bombers (approx 5.000 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia_%28ship%29 The "Cap Arcona" sunk by the RAF (approx 8.000 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cap_Arcona The "Junyo Maru" sunk by a British submarine (approx 5.620 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juny%C5%8D_Maru in comparison The "Titanic" sunk by collision with an iceberg and often named as the worst maritime catastrophe in the 20th century (approx 1.500 dead) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic The Soviet submarine S-13 alone is responsible for 12.000 dead soldiers, crewmen and refugees within 12 days time noone's talking about anymore today. I know we're all playing a game here, but when portraying a ship like this, I'd like to take the chance to remind people that behind this ship there's a history of more than 10.000 people that were on her and only a few of which survived to tell the tale.

09-26-07, 02:45 PM	#10
sh3rules Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sailing the Seas of Lies Posts: 393 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Thank you for the info. I guess the Titanic was partly a sensationalistic stunt on the part of the media (not to trivialize the tragedy, but bigger tragedies put it in perspective). Since this is a GAME however, in the gameworld I'm just one badass Kaleun

09-26-07, 04:07 PM	#12
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Interesting links Woof Thanx for those __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41