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Old 09-07-07, 04:20 PM   #1
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Default The State of British Policing

This is a perfectly legitamate rant about the British Police Force, and this thread is not the place for responses that contain things like "lol" or "I know, wtf". Thanks

My father and I, when on a hour and a half car journey from the West Midlands to Ystalyfera, Wales (Near Swansea) discussed the state of the British Police force. These are some of the points that came up:
  • When was the last time you saw a traffic cop on a motorway? Are the police really that dependent on speed cameras and 'deterrents' that they dont even bother patrolling anymore?
  • How many times have you seen a driver (be it truck, car, moped) break the law as you drove behind them?
  • How come a man on his mobile phone got only 6 points on his license, a £250 fine and a slap on the wrist for hitting a 12 year old girl on a pavement whilst on his mobile phone?
  • There was an occasion when we were almost hit head on by an impatient motorist who tried to overtake another car and only in the last few seconds pulled back into their own lane. If we had hit that car, I wouldnt have been typing this, and thats no exaggeration. She* was then observed to be insulting the motorist in front of her.
Lets be honest now. People are being arrested and taken to court for putting their feet on the seat on a train, when Irish haulage drivers are left to get away with transporting a dock container on an ordinary flatbed**. What the hell is wrong here?!

*This is in no way a generalisation. She was a woman
** You're supposed to have locking mechanisms on the corners and middle of a dock container to stop it from sliding off the flatbed. This trucker had neither.
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Old 09-07-07, 04:24 PM   #2
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Apathy mate, that's what it is.

- pigs on the motorway - everytime I've broken down and used one of those emergency phones and spoken to an operator, a car has arrived withing a matter of a couple of minues. Certainly my trip up the M1 and the A50 last weekend saw about a dozen rozzers driving along.

- other drivers and the law - so many times I've lost count.

- car phone guy - deserves it like everybody else; trouble is he'll probably have to kill some poor sod first before anything serious happens. A m8 of mine got 4 points and a 90 quid fine for using his mobile phone in a stationary traffic jam to tell work he'd be late. Nice... meet those targets, bust that quango goal.

- all of the above - it's cynically perceived that the easiest people to convict/fine etc are the ones the police go for, but maybe that is because they're the easiest?
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Old 09-07-07, 04:46 PM   #5
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How come a man on his mobile phone got only 6 points on his license, a £250 fine and a slap on the wrist for hitting a 12 year old girl on a pavement whilst on his mobile phone?
That's nothing to do with policing, the police might have carried out the arrest, but sentencing is a matter for the Judge, Magistrate and the Crown Prosecution Service and any pertinent legislation that is either lacking or lax.

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Old 09-07-07, 04:47 PM   #6
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In ten years you will look back and say what a crap country I lived in then, but it was better back then.

The following is a general statement to the folks of the UK -
The power is with the people you want change wake up.

And on that note I am not reading or replying to this thread anymore. :p
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Kinda with Chock on this one.

British Police are probably doing the best they can with the resources they've got and the targets they are forced to meet. It's the fault of the courts that crimanals get off with such light sentances sometimes.

But then are the courts hands not partly tied by the overcrowding in prisons?
Who's fault is that?
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Who's fault is that?
Yours. Nah, only joking. The prisons are too full of foreign prisoners. And thats not just being funny. Britain doesnt have the balls to deport foreign prisoners. Thats how bad this country is.
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Who's fault is that?
Yours. Nah, only joking. The prisons are too full of foreign prisoners. And thats not just being funny. Britain doesnt have the balls to deport foreign prisoners. Thats how bad this country is.
Foreign prisoners? Yes part the problem but why not spend a few quid and build a few more prisons?

Yes, and I would be happy to pay a bit more tax so long as thats what they spent it on.
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My dad says that, but he's not willing to spend the money when there's no guarantee that it'll be spent that way
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Have to agree with you Kapitan, there aren't nearly enough police on the roads these days.
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Old 09-07-07, 05:52 PM   #12
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More prisons yes
Deport the foreign prisoners yes

Dont spend too much time on the motorways thank god but when I do I rarely see a police car
Except at service stations
LMAO

Wanna see a copper
Watch TV
They are all driving around with camera crews in the back

I see drivers using mobile phones every day
But without seeing a police car they are free to get away with it

Driving standards as a rule have gone down the pan
Only tonight had a car heading towards me turn right across me forcing me to brake hard
I used to love driving now its a necessary evil
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I think that Britain needs this guy:


or this guy:


either way, the crime problems in the UK, or any other country they patrol, are over!

But seriously speaking, law enforcement in the UK does seem to be suffering from an over reliance on technology when nothing does the job like a cop on the beat with a good head on his shoulders.
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But seriously speaking, law enforcement in the UK does seem to be suffering from an over reliance on technology when nothing does the job like a cop on the beat with a good head on his shoulders.
Precisely

The answer to the problem is electing a government that is genuinely prepared to put in some serious investment :hmm:
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