Game Crashes to Desk Top

scrag · 08-11-07, 06:04 PM

I have been playing with patch 1.3 installed for few weeks and last night and today the game has CTD on me. I suspect it may a corrupted save but not sure as I have been able to play for an hour or so before the CTD. Any clues?
Thanks

tater · 08-11-07, 06:21 PM

You need to provide way more information.

What were you doing when you had the CTD, where were you, what was the date, etc.

tater

orangenee · 08-11-07, 06:23 PM

Given this is SH4 it could be any number of things, so like Tater said we need a bit more info.

scrag · 08-12-07, 04:06 PM

Wow - the date I know it was 1942 October (I think) I am operating in the Australian AOR and was on the surface - heading into port (Brisbane).
The First one - I was surfaced transiting south towards Australia on the route from the celebe sea. Another thing I noticed (game play mechanics but I am confused) was that I was offered and took command of a new GATO class boat. I though that my crew would transfer (as in SHIII) and though I would take delivery of the new boat in Pearl I would return south to Australia. Instead I am now based in Pearl. My crashes have taken place after taking the new boat and operating IVO Australia????
Thanks

AVGWarhawk · 08-12-07, 04:12 PM

Just for fun. Defrag and remove old internet build up. This cures my CTD ills when they occur which in not often.

barndog · 08-12-07, 06:50 PM

I was getting CTD everytime I lowered my attack scope. I dumped my IE storage and it went away.

558800 · 08-12-07, 10:48 PM

Yes,I crashed to desktop when I load the save too(after close sh4 and restart sh4)(if not restarting sh4 It would not crash when I only load the save in the game ). I'm using gato boat.I think it start to crash after I am using gato boat.So the gato boat may bring crash?

neumanf15 · 09-22-07, 09:11 PM

This thread fits my problem to a T...

I've been playing for several weeks now without problems. I transferred down to Brisbane to see the other end of the war. On my 13th patrol, I kept getting CTDs on the Nav map with TC. I managed to get around ti and dock. I had one CTD on patrol 14 and it just crashed again on patrol 15.

Here are the things in common:

Always on nav map
Always in TC (as little as 256 I've noticed))
ALWAYS in Celebes Sea or Banda Sea - more specifically all but one have been between Davao (South Philippines) and Mios Woendi. The one was SW of Mios Woendi.
ALWAYS a few game hours after refueling at Mios Woendi the refueling station near Celebes Sea (East of Celebes, West of New Guinea)

I've checked my drivers, I've uninstalled and reinstalled and patched. My hardware is fine (Prime 95 stable for 24+) I'm running TM 1.6.2. I'm going to try turning down the sound acceleration on my X-FI, but I doubt that's it since I can run around in TC ALL THE TIME anywhere else in the world - and I do A LOT. Event viewer always shows the same thing: Faulting application sh4.exe, version 1.3.0.0, faulting module simdata.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00020bfc.

Any thoughts (other than don't refuel/go there

) would be appreciated.

Edit: Got a couple of geo names.

neumanf15 · 09-23-07, 09:43 PM

Bump and update:
It happened again... I transferred to Pearl after the crash on my 15th mission, then redid that mission (hadn't been very far into it). About 2 real hours (~6 game weeks) and using up every fish I've got, I'm SW of Manila when it CTD's, this time RIGHT after I saved. I tried again, same thing. Then I tried again from the bridge with TC 32 and it still crashed. It happens in the exact same spot on the ocean every time. [Edit]: More updates: I tried going through there submerged - CTD. Then I tried going through there real-time (I'm <2 NM from the point where it CTDs with this save). EVEN IN REAL-TIME, it CTDs! Could there be something in the ocean at that spot that is causing the CTDs???

My next effort qwill be to go around that spot (or maybe away from) and see what happens, but that will have to wait for tomorrow.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

ReallyDedPoet · 09-24-07, 07:36 AM

I have no idea, be nice to see you get this fixed, bump

RDP

neumanf15 · 09-24-07, 11:12 AM

Well, the mystery deepens...

I installed SHIV, patch 1.3 and TM 1.6.2 on my laptop, moved my save game over and tried there and got the SAME CRASH ON A DIFFERENT COMPUTER.

My desktop is a AMD 4200+, 2GB, 8800GTS/320, X-FI. My laptop is a Intel Core Duo T2400, 2GB, 7900GS, onboard audio. Both have all the latest drivers, etc.

So is it something in my career/save game or something in TM 1.6.2 or is the simdata.dll on my DVD corrupt? Maybe I'll go ask in the TM forum...

PLEASE tell me someone has seen this before and knows a fix.

tater · 09-24-07, 11:57 AM

OK, I will look into it. With the geo information, I might be able to nail it down. It could very well be an error in a group.

A common CTD I had early on (thought I found all of them) was that a group might be set to 2 columns. Say it has 1 ship that is always there, and 6 others at varied % chances. 99.9999% of the time, there are 2 ships, but if you ever get just one, the game will CTD trying to make 2 columns of of it.

Thanks for the excellent information, that helps, but I need the DATES, too. If it is a group, it can be a simple "add this last" campaign patch to fix it.

tater

neumanf15 · 09-24-07, 01:23 PM

Tater,
What you're saying makes perfect sense to me, as there has just about always been a reported group nearby shortly before the crash. Here's the dates and locations that I can dredge up the correct saves of:

April 3, 1944 @ ~N14-20, E119-15
(Can't find the exact save for this one, but it's around) January 23, 1944 @ ~N3-00, E127-20
December 11, 1943 @ ~N1-00 E126-50
(Couldn't get this one to duplicate, but...) December 12, 1943 @ (very rough) S5-00, E125-00
There was one more in the vicinity of N3-30, E127-20, but the date is very rough (no save, went back and started mission over) at Late Feb-Early March 1944.

Thank you so much for the help - for now I'll avoid this latest broken group. If I knew what file to look in... Found it...

[Edit:] I've been looking through 43a_Jap_Convoys.mis (since the dates match my problems) and I think I got the hang of reading it... If No=x means that it will spawn x many of those ships when it spawns, then RndGroup 13 may be missing one. It has 5 columns, but I only see 4 guaranteed ships (two Rndunit 1, two RndUnit 5). RndGroup 20 has 3 columns and only two guaranteed ships (two RndUnit 1). RndGroup 23 has 5 columns and only 2 guaranteed RndUnit 1s. RndGroup 34 has 2 columns and only one guaranteed (RndUnit 1).

Is that what you're talking about?

tater · 09-24-07, 01:37 PM

Found it.

tater · 09-24-07, 01:57 PM

JSGME fix. Apply on top of TM (in port certainly best, but it might work at sea).

tater

08-11-07, 06:04 PM	#1
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Game Crashes to Desk Top I have been playing with patch 1.3 installed for few weeks and last night and today the game has CTD on me. I suspect it may a corrupted save but not sure as I have been able to play for an hour or so before the CTD. Any clues? Thanks __________________

08-11-07, 06:23 PM	#3
orangenee Engineer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 211 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Given this is SH4 it could be any number of things, so like Tater said we need a bit more info. __________________ Remember people, murder kills!!

08-12-07, 04:06 PM	#4
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	More Data Wow - the date I know it was 1942 October (I think) I am operating in the Australian AOR and was on the surface - heading into port (Brisbane). The First one - I was surfaced transiting south towards Australia on the route from the celebe sea. Another thing I noticed (game play mechanics but I am confused) was that I was offered and took command of a new GATO class boat. I though that my crew would transfer (as in SHIII) and though I would take delivery of the new boat in Pearl I would return south to Australia. Instead I am now based in Pearl. My crashes have taken place after taking the new boat and operating IVO Australia???? Thanks __________________

08-12-07, 04:12 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Just for fun. Defrag and remove old internet build up. This cures my CTD ills when they occur which in not often. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-12-07, 06:50 PM	#6
barndog A-ganger Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 73 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I fixed mine I was getting CTD everytime I lowered my attack scope. I dumped my IE storage and it went away.

08-11-07, 06:21 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	You need to provide way more information. What were you doing when you had the CTD, where were you, what was the date, etc. tater

08-12-07, 10:48 PM	#7
558800 Watch Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 21 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes,I crashed to desktop when I load the save too(after close sh4 and restart sh4)(if not restarting sh4 It would not crash when I only load the save in the game ). I'm using gato boat.I think it start to crash after I am using gato boat.So the gato boat may bring crash?

09-22-07, 09:11 PM	#8
neumanf15 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 41 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	New CTDs... This thread fits my problem to a T... I've been playing for several weeks now without problems. I transferred down to Brisbane to see the other end of the war. On my 13th patrol, I kept getting CTDs on the Nav map with TC. I managed to get around ti and dock. I had one CTD on patrol 14 and it just crashed again on patrol 15. Here are the things in common: Always on nav map Always in TC (as little as 256 I've noticed)) ALWAYS in Celebes Sea or Banda Sea - more specifically all but one have been between Davao (South Philippines) and Mios Woendi. The one was SW of Mios Woendi. ALWAYS a few game hours after refueling at Mios Woendi the refueling station near Celebes Sea (East of Celebes, West of New Guinea) I've checked my drivers, I've uninstalled and reinstalled and patched. My hardware is fine (Prime 95 stable for 24+) I'm running TM 1.6.2. I'm going to try turning down the sound acceleration on my X-FI, but I doubt that's it since I can run around in TC ALL THE TIME anywhere else in the world - and I do A LOT. Event viewer always shows the same thing: Faulting application sh4.exe, version 1.3.0.0, faulting module simdata.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00020bfc. Any thoughts (other than don't refuel/go there ) would be appreciated. Edit: Got a couple of geo names. Last edited by neumanf15; 09-23-07 at 01:56 PM.

09-23-07, 09:43 PM	#9
neumanf15 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 41 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Bump and update: It happened again... I transferred to Pearl after the crash on my 15th mission, then redid that mission (hadn't been very far into it). About 2 real hours (~6 game weeks) and using up every fish I've got, I'm SW of Manila when it CTD's, this time RIGHT after I saved. I tried again, same thing. Then I tried again from the bridge with TC 32 and it still crashed. It happens in the exact same spot on the ocean every time. [Edit]: More updates: I tried going through there submerged - CTD. Then I tried going through there real-time (I'm <2 NM from the point where it CTDs with this save). EVEN IN REAL-TIME, it CTDs! Could there be something in the ocean at that spot that is causing the CTDs??? My next effort qwill be to go around that spot (or maybe away from) and see what happens, but that will have to wait for tomorrow. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Last edited by neumanf15; 09-23-07 at 09:59 PM.

09-24-07, 07:36 AM	#10
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	I have no idea, be nice to see you get this fixed, bump RDP __________________ Back in the Day

09-24-07, 11:12 AM	#11
neumanf15 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 41 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Well, the mystery deepens... I installed SHIV, patch 1.3 and TM 1.6.2 on my laptop, moved my save game over and tried there and got the SAME CRASH ON A DIFFERENT COMPUTER. My desktop is a AMD 4200+, 2GB, 8800GTS/320, X-FI. My laptop is a Intel Core Duo T2400, 2GB, 7900GS, onboard audio. Both have all the latest drivers, etc. So is it something in my career/save game or something in TM 1.6.2 or is the simdata.dll on my DVD corrupt? Maybe I'll go ask in the TM forum... PLEASE tell me someone has seen this before and knows a fix.

09-24-07, 11:57 AM	#12
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	OK, I will look into it. With the geo information, I might be able to nail it down. It could very well be an error in a group. A common CTD I had early on (thought I found all of them) was that a group might be set to 2 columns. Say it has 1 ship that is always there, and 6 others at varied % chances. 99.9999% of the time, there are 2 ships, but if you ever get just one, the game will CTD trying to make 2 columns of of it. Thanks for the excellent information, that helps, but I need the DATES, too. If it is a group, it can be a simple "add this last" campaign patch to fix it. tater

09-24-07, 01:23 PM	#13
neumanf15 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 41 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Tater, What you're saying makes perfect sense to me, as there has just about always been a reported group nearby shortly before the crash. Here's the dates and locations that I can dredge up the correct saves of: April 3, 1944 @ ~N14-20, E119-15 (Can't find the exact save for this one, but it's around) January 23, 1944 @ ~N3-00, E127-20 December 11, 1943 @ ~N1-00 E126-50 (Couldn't get this one to duplicate, but...) December 12, 1943 @ (very rough) S5-00, E125-00 There was one more in the vicinity of N3-30, E127-20, but the date is very rough (no save, went back and started mission over) at Late Feb-Early March 1944. Thank you so much for the help - for now I'll avoid this latest broken group. If I knew what file to look in... Found it... [Edit:] I've been looking through 43a_Jap_Convoys.mis (since the dates match my problems) and I think I got the hang of reading it... If No=x means that it will spawn x many of those ships when it spawns, then RndGroup 13 may be missing one. It has 5 columns, but I only see 4 guaranteed ships (two Rndunit 1, two RndUnit 5). RndGroup 20 has 3 columns and only two guaranteed ships (two RndUnit 1). RndGroup 23 has 5 columns and only 2 guaranteed RndUnit 1s. RndGroup 34 has 2 columns and only one guaranteed (RndUnit 1). Is that what you're talking about? Last edited by neumanf15; 09-24-07 at 02:02 PM.

09-24-07, 01:37 PM	#14
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Found it.

09-24-07, 01:57 PM	#15
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	JSGME fix. Apply on top of TM (in port certainly best, but it might work at sea). tater Last edited by tater; 09-24-07 at 02:08 PM.