Surrender Option?

emtmedic005 · 08-06-07, 09:32 PM

I played the first SH back in the day with my father and i loved the fact that you could surrender your boat to the enemy, i dont know why any one would want to surrender to the Japanese, but i was wondering in the next upgrade to come from the GWX crew will and option to Surrender our boat be in the Game???

JScones · 08-06-07, 11:54 PM

Not possible without coding changes. But it can be fudged with SH3Cmdr - it contains a surrender option. But again, it's a fudge for *after* the event.

headcase · 08-07-07, 12:39 AM

Surrender is not an option.

Gezoes · 08-07-07, 01:30 AM

Although you can surface and are killed ingame, once you quit the game SH3Commander will give you an option to surrender.

It shows in your personel file, down to details about the rest of your kaleun's life.

Foghladh_mhara · 08-07-07, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by headcase

Surrender is not an option.

Exactly! The Fuhrer will have your balls if he hears about this conversation entmedic

Steel_Tomb · 08-07-07, 09:16 AM

If its a DiD career, usually I will try to stay in the game for as long as possible. But if the situation is hopeless...i.e. 5 destroyers right on top of you and DC'ing right on target I will blow ballast and surrender. No point sacraficing myself for the crazy old man called the fuhrur!

Gezoes · 08-07-07, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

If its a DiD career, usually I will try to stay in the game for as long as possible. But if the situation is hopeless...i.e. 5 destroyers right on top of you and DC'ing right on target I will blow ballast and surrender. No point sacraficing myself for the crazy old man called the fuhrur!

That's an exact description of my very short career and trip down the Channel in 1940. I made it once, so I thought I could do it again. Scottish waters from then on.
Half my crew was dead anyway, but I managed to save the other half doing exactly what you wrote.

CapZap1970 · 08-07-07, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Not possible without coding changes. But it can be fudged with SH3Cmdr - it contains a surrender option. But again, it's a fudge for *after* the event.

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you please tell me how to use that option in SH3 CMdr?
Thanks JS

CapZap

STEED · 08-07-07, 01:42 PM

I use SH3C and this is how I end, if I can get the boat to surface it's a POW situation and if I go to the bottom.

Most of the time it's

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JScones · 08-07-07, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CapZap1970

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Originally Posted by JScones

Not possible without coding changes. But it can be fudged with SH3Cmdr - it contains a surrender option. But again, it's a fudge for *after* the event.

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you please tell me how to use that option in SH3 CMdr?
Thanks JS

CapZap

Click on the "Lost at sea..." status and you'll be given the option to surrender.

HMCS · 08-07-07, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by headcase

Surrender is not an option.

Aw, horsefeathers.

Surrender is always an option for the Germans.

Worse case scenario: you get sent to Bowmanville, Ontario.

A descripton:

"When the naval prisoners arrived at Bowmanville, there were no recreational facilities. The naval officers quickly transformed the camp. Flower and vegetable gardens were planted, sports fields, tennis courts and a swimming pool were built. The quarters were expanded, giving the prisoners better living conditions. The prisoners received money from home or earned extra money by manufacturing wooden furniture. They were able to purchase beer, cigarettes and dry goods from the Eaton's mail order catalogue. It was an ideal life except that there were no women and no freedom. For some there was the urge to get back to the war and defend their country, and for others a desire to remain POWs for the duration of the war.
A daily routine of exercise, sporting events and work assignments was established. As well as English being taught, professors from the nearby University of Toronto gave lectures for university credit classes. A school was also formed, which taught midshipmen seamanship and navigation courses.
Current movies were shown each week. National and religious holidays were observed, and music concerts were given regularly. Elaborate stage plays were produced. Extraordinary puppets were designed and fabricated for puppet shows. Although the conditions were good in the Canadian POW camps, there was very little to do, and the routine was always the same."

That last sentence is a bit odd... it sounds as if there was lots to do.

Some German POW's (not sure if they could at Bowmanville) could earn day parole and they worked on farms in the Prairies. I remember a friend of my dad's telling me about the time that he saw some POW's taken in the desert get off the train at Vegreville, AB to work the farms. They were these huge, tough-looking Germans, and the new Canadian Army recruits (of which he was one) thought out loud: "Jesus Christ....they want us to fight THESE guys?"

Turned out, when he landed in Normandy, all the Germans he saw were the "old men and boys", and not the SS Hitler Youth types (he was lucky). So I guess the Russians got rid of most of the good ones.

Siegfried Freiherr Von Tiesenhausen (sank the Barham in the 'Med) liked Canada so much that he stayed. He lived out his life here in Vancouver BC; I met him once. He was a sweet old fella with quite a bit of talent as a photographer. Somehow I doubt that any Allied POW's liked the Germans so much that they stayed in Germany.

bookworm_020 · 08-08-07, 01:05 AM

Quite a few German and Italian POW's stayed in Australia after the war or came back shortly after. Many of the German civilans who were rounded up in the UK were sent to Australia and many of them also stayed.

EZeemering · 08-08-07, 11:24 AM

Good read HMCS !

Early war POWS were treated very well by the Germans at least according to the Versailles treaty. Great respect to each other untill the pows tried something stupid like breaking out. Numorous accounts confirm that from both sides. Especially in Africa pows were treated very good by both sides. Read a book about Dutch pows "Sack with flees". The Dutch had the highest acount of pow out breakings, hence the title of the book. Still they recieved alot of respect from the Germans.
Offcours when the war ended the Germans had less and less reources to treat the pows and the respect slowly deteriated. Being a western allied pow wasnt necesarially bad, as Russian pow this was a bit different as the Germans (SS) didnt recognize the Russians as a human race.
Still you cant expext as pow to end up in a holiday camp in a total war

CapZap1970 · 08-08-07, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

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Originally Posted by CapZap1970

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Originally Posted by JScones

Not possible without coding changes. But it can be fudged with SH3Cmdr - it contains a surrender option. But again, it's a fudge for *after* the event.

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you please tell me how to use that option in SH3 CMdr?
Thanks JS

CapZap

Click on the "Lost at sea..." status and you'll be given the option to surrender.

Thanks for that JS...

CapZap

Vipper · 07-21-08, 12:14 PM

I remember days i played legendary AOD and as i remember there was surrender option, you did emergency surface and were captured. When i first time did play SH4 and found myself in desperate situation i was wondered that only option given to me was sink with all hands...

08-06-07, 09:32 PM	#1
emtmedic005 Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Andover, MA Posts: 361 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Surrender Option? I played the first SH back in the day with my father and i loved the fact that you could surrender your boat to the enemy, i dont know why any one would want to surrender to the Japanese, but i was wondering in the next upgrade to come from the GWX crew will and option to Surrender our boat be in the Game???

08-07-07, 12:39 AM	#3
headcase Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: The wrong side of the tracks, Neverland Posts: 157 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Surrender is not an option. __________________ It's like the Blues. You can't play em if you haven't lived em. GWX 3.0 DID

08-07-07, 01:30 AM	#4
Gezoes XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 435 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Although you can surface and are killed ingame, once you quit the game SH3Commander will give you an option to surrender. It shows in your personel file, down to details about the rest of your kaleun's life. __________________ If I wasn't a little mad, I'd go mad.

08-07-07, 09:16 AM	#6
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If its a DiD career, usually I will try to stay in the game for as long as possible. But if the situation is hopeless...i.e. 5 destroyers right on top of you and DC'ing right on target I will blow ballast and surrender. No point sacraficing myself for the crazy old man called the fuhrur! __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| *Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.*

08-07-07, 01:42 PM	#9
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I use SH3C and this is how I end, if I can get the boat to surface it's a POW situation and if I go to the bottom. Most of the time it's are __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-06-07, 11:54 PM	#2
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Not possible without coding changes. But it can be fudged with SH3Cmdr - it contains a surrender option. But again, it's a fudge for after the event.

08-08-07, 01:05 AM	#12
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Quite a few German and Italian POW's stayed in Australia after the war or came back shortly after. Many of the German civilans who were rounded up in the UK were sent to Australia and many of them also stayed. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

08-08-07, 11:24 AM	#13
EZeemering Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Willemshaven Posts: 52 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good read HMCS ! Early war POWS were treated very well by the Germans at least according to the Versailles treaty. Great respect to each other untill the pows tried something stupid like breaking out. Numorous accounts confirm that from both sides. Especially in Africa pows were treated very good by both sides. Read a book about Dutch pows "Sack with flees". The Dutch had the highest acount of pow out breakings, hence the title of the book. Still they recieved alot of respect from the Germans. Offcours when the war ended the Germans had less and less reources to treat the pows and the respect slowly deteriated. Being a western allied pow wasnt necesarially bad, as Russian pow this was a bit different as the Germans (SS) didnt recognize the Russians as a human race. Still you cant expext as pow to end up in a holiday camp in a total war

07-21-08, 12:14 PM	#15
Vipper Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I remember days i played legendary AOD and as i remember there was surrender option, you did emergency surface and were captured. When i first time did play SH4 and found myself in desperate situation i was wondered that only option given to me was sink with all hands...