SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-29-07, 12:46 PM   #1
PULSEOX
Helmsman
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Tombstone AZ
Posts: 102
Downloads: 417
Uploads: 0
Save game vs. "pause?"

I was wondering if anyone routinely uses the "pause"- 0 time compression- to leave the game for long periods (such as overnight), instead of saving the game and exiting?
I was thinking that would save time with not having to go thru the long load and startup-but I'm afraid maybe the game crashes if you "pause" it for such a long time....Does anyone know for sure?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"We build them well in Germany....eh Heinie?"
PULSEOX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-07, 12:50 PM   #2
sqk7744
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: ~About 60' below
Posts: 1,150
Downloads: 7
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PULSEOX
I was wondering if anyone routinely uses the "pause"- 0 time compression- to leave the game for long periods (such as overnight), instead of saving the game and exiting?
I was thinking that would save time with not having to go thru the long load and startup-but I'm afraid maybe the game crashes if you "pause" it for such a long time....Does anyone know for sure?
It's better to save and close those files nicely, assuring a solid restart point. Computers also like a reboot, vs. running all night (me thinks your electric bill would approve too) just to save 5 mins of time to resume play.
__________________
"
All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!"
MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial
sqk7744 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-07, 02:59 PM   #3
SteamWake
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,224
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

I have head storys of the game crashing after being left at 0 TC for a period of time.
SteamWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-07, 03:06 PM   #4
Nafod81
Loader
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Saint Louis MO
Posts: 87
Downloads: 7
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sqk7744
Quote:
Originally Posted by PULSEOX
I was wondering if anyone routinely uses the "pause"- 0 time compression- to leave the game for long periods (such as overnight), instead of saving the game and exiting?
I was thinking that would save time with not having to go thru the long load and startup-but I'm afraid maybe the game crashes if you "pause" it for such a long time....Does anyone know for sure?
It's better to save and close those files nicely, assuring a solid restart point. Computers also like a reboot, vs. running all night (me thinks your electric bill would approve too) just to save 5 mins of time to resume play.
Eh, depending on the computer: Restarting provides a surge of electricity and doing so frequently generally wears out components quicker than continued use. I typically only turn mine off if I won't be on for a day or longer. Your electricity bill will improve if you practice this however.

No idea on excessive pauses crashing SHIV. I know occasionally one shotting a small merchant will, and one time when I had sacked 3 kongo BB's my save got corrupted

No idea on
Nafod81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-07, 04:58 PM   #5
SteamWake
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,224
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nafod81
Eh, depending on the computer: Restarting provides a surge of electricity and doing so frequently generally wears out components quicker than continued use. I typically only turn mine off if I won't be on for a day or longer. Your electricity bill will improve if you practice this however.
Sorry being an electrical engineer I just have to jump in here and call BS.

Yes there is an inrush when the computer is started. It lasts approximatly 10 cycles out of 60 cycles per seconds so approximatly 1/60th of a second. After that it is a steady state draw which flucuates to some degree depending on how hard your system is working. Regardless of what the state of the computer... even in "sleep" mode, the power supply is still drawing current.

The inrush of a incandescent light bulb is probably on the order of 1,000 times that of your computers power supply but falls off much more quickly in only a few cycles. In fact when power is first applied to a cold filament it is literally a dead short circuit. When the filiment gets hot the current draw falls dramatically due to the increased resistance of the hot filiment.

Now is it more energy efficent to turn your lights on and leave them on or cut them off when not in use ?

Also consider while the computer is on the fans are constantly running and pulling in dust and debrie. Eventually the heat sinks will become plugged up and require cleaning. If there not cleaned eventually you will have catastrophic faiure. The more the machine runs the sooner the heat sinks get choked up.

As to component failure this is a wives tale which dates back to the days (circa 1950-1970) when electrolytic capacitors were made of wax paper and aluminum foil (sometimes mica would be used). They would indeed fail eventually and frequent inrushes made the problem worse. Modern components are designed to withstand inrush currents to avoid these problems. The biggest thing to remember is that if you do cut the power off to your machine wait a few moments before re-applying power. Doing so allows the caps to bleed off there current charge. Banging a fully charged capacitor with an inrush is not good for their health but they only take a few seconds (10 or so) to bleed off.

Now dont get me wrong you dont want to cut your machine off when you get up to go to the bathroom or whatever but leaving it on all night when not being used is just a waste of money.

Hows that for an off topic rant !
SteamWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-07, 05:49 PM   #6
John Channing
Sea Lord
 
John Channing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1998
Posts: 1,846
Downloads: 163
Uploads: 5
Default

Pretty darn good.

JCC
John Channing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-07, 05:57 PM   #7
sqk7744
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: ~About 60' below
Posts: 1,150
Downloads: 7
Uploads: 0
Default

Amen SteamWake!

I always say, unless your computer is running the air traffic control system shut it off when not in use for extended periods of time (1+ hours) and after 12 years in IT Windows OS's still need a reboot every now and again to cure all the memory leaks.

After all, starting your car increases wear and burns fuel, but we don't leave our cars continuously running. (in temps above the Arctic that is)
__________________
"
All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!"
MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial
sqk7744 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.