wolfgang petersen

ABBAFAN · 07-26-07, 03:42 PM

does anyone else agree that except the highly excellent Das Boot all his films are absalute excrement?

joea · 07-26-07, 03:55 PM

Well of the others I've seen, Air Force One was meh...Troy

, and that's all I think.

List here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Petersen

Chock · 07-26-07, 04:06 PM

Didn't he direct The Neverending Story? think it was him. Garbage.

Yeah, most of his other stuff is not too great. Air Force one really sucks ass big time, some nice CGI when that tanker is it? can't remember, blows up. But yeah, that's a real rent-payer of a movie. Perfect Storm is another one of his isn't it? that's another CGI-fest with a crap story (even if it is based on a true event). Troy is quite possibly one of the worst films ever, 'nuff said. Then you have Poseidon, a pointless remake of what was a crap film in the first place.

But...

Enemy Mine (a remake of Hell in the Pacific) is an outstandingly good movie, and Outbreak is quite entertaining too. But even if he never made another film ever again, who can fault the man that made Das Boot? It's more than most of us will ever do.

Chock

fatty · 07-26-07, 04:34 PM

Troy and Perfect Storm I enjoyed.

Das Boot? Meh. It was okay, I think I am the only person on this forum who isn't nuts over it. It's a nice submarine movie, but as a general cinematic work...

Heibges · 07-26-07, 05:04 PM

The Perfect Storm had some good parts, but overall I agree it was weak.

Camaero · 07-26-07, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fatty

Troy and Perfect Storm I enjoyed.

Das Boot? Meh. It was okay, I think I am the only person on this forum who isn't nuts over it. It's a nice submarine movie, but as a general cinematic work...

You must be burned at the stake for that!

Actually I like some of his movies... none of them are anywhere near as good as Das Boot though.

Heibges · 07-26-07, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fatty

Troy and Perfect Storm I enjoyed.

Das Boot? Meh. It was okay, I think I am the only person on this forum who isn't nuts over it. It's a nice submarine movie, but as a general cinematic work...

I think the story arc in Das Boot is brilliant.

Skybird · 07-26-07, 05:34 PM

When he did The Neverending Story, he gave a lot of interviews saying that now it was about laying the fundament of a European film industry, and that he was about assisting in the creation of a massive german movie business etc etc.

Less than six months later he was off to Hollywood and never came back. Bigmouth.

Before Neverending Story, he did a handful of TV productions. Some of them were solid character movies, especially two crime movies I vaguely remember. But all in all, like Emmerich, he is overrated with his hollywood works.

Tchocky · 07-26-07, 05:38 PM

Ah Mr Emmerich, how nice to see you again. And how will you be destroying landmarks this year?

bookworm_020 · 07-26-07, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Ah Mr Emmerich, how nice to see you again. And how will you be destroying landmarks this year?

More important, which landmarks?:hmm:

bradclark1 · 07-26-07, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fatty

Das Boot? Meh. It was okay, I think I am the only person on this forum who isn't nuts over it. It's a nice submarine movie, but as a general cinematic work...

Nope, I was way before you. I had to take no-doze to watch it and never did finish it.

SUBMAN1 · 07-26-07, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

The Perfect Storm had some good parts, but overall I agree it was weak.

My thoughts exactly. Boring!

Skybird · 07-26-07, 07:20 PM

If you guys want some extremely good movie-making by a German director, watch out for Tom Tykwer. Some of his movies are amongst the most beautiful I have ever seen.

Maybe "Run, Lola, run" is his most well-lknown, but despite some technical originality in the plot, i think it is not amongst his best.

These three, however, are very dear to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintersleepers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pri...nd_the_Warrior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_%282002_film%29

I agree with those Germans saying that Tykwer probably is the most artistic and orginal movie-maker germany has ever had since WWII. His movies are pieces of beauty and art, not action, but are not so tiresome dialogue-oriented and abstract-philosophic like many modern French or Eastern movies. If you look for bright lights and loiud sounds, look somewhere else. Despite the artistic handling of colours, cuts and camera perspectives, the highly original, surprising, unexpected and confusing and yet sense-making twists in his plots are noticable (see Wintersleeper).

Safe-Keeper · 07-26-07, 08:46 PM

The NeverEnding Story was awesome in my eyes. The Perfect Storm, out of respect for the family of the dead, should either have been created with fictional characters and a fictional event, or not at all. Das Boot was splendid, although not at all if you're after a Hollywood-style action movie

. Outbreak was just OK, felt like all other Hollywood movies, except they're fighting a virus instead of terrorists or Russians.

Heibges · 07-26-07, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

When he did The Neverending Story, he gave a lot of interviews saying that now it was about laying the fundament of a European film industry, and that he was about assisting in the creation of a massive german movie business etc etc.

Less than six months later he was off to Hollywood and never came back. Bigmouth.

Before Neverending Story, he did a handful of TV productions. Some of them were solid character movies, especially two crime movies I vaguely remember. But all in all, like Emmerich, he is overrated with his hollywood works.

But I believe the Bluescreen facilities they used for Neverending Story did bring a lot of business to Germany. Wasn't it the largest bluescreen in the world at one time?

07-26-07, 03:42 PM	#1
ABBAFAN Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 456 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	wolfgang petersen does anyone else agree that except the highly excellent Das Boot all his films are absalute excrement? __________________ CHOOSE RFA! LESS GRAFT, MORE PAY.

07-26-07, 04:06 PM	#3
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Didn't he direct The Neverending Story? think it was him. Garbage. Yeah, most of his other stuff is not too great. Air Force one really sucks ass big time, some nice CGI when that tanker is it? can't remember, blows up. But yeah, that's a real rent-payer of a movie. Perfect Storm is another one of his isn't it? that's another CGI-fest with a crap story (even if it is based on a true event). Troy is quite possibly one of the worst films ever, 'nuff said. Then you have Poseidon, a pointless remake of what was a crap film in the first place. But... Enemy Mine (a remake of Hell in the Pacific) is an outstandingly good movie, and Outbreak is quite entertaining too. But even if he never made another film ever again, who can fault the man that made Das Boot? It's more than most of us will ever do. Chock __________________

07-26-07, 05:04 PM	#5
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The Perfect Storm had some good parts, but overall I agree it was weak. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

07-26-07, 05:34 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,628 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	When he did The Neverending Story, he gave a lot of interviews saying that now it was about laying the fundament of a European film industry, and that he was about assisting in the creation of a massive german movie business etc etc. Less than six months later he was off to Hollywood and never came back. Bigmouth. Before Neverending Story, he did a handful of TV productions. Some of them were solid character movies, especially two crime movies I vaguely remember. But all in all, like Emmerich, he is overrated with his hollywood works. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-26-07, 05:38 PM	#9
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Ah Mr Emmerich, how nice to see you again. And how will you be destroying landmarks this year? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-26-07, 03:55 PM	#2
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Well of the others I've seen, Air Force One was meh...Troy , and that's all I think. List here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Petersen

07-26-07, 04:34 PM	#4
fatty The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,448 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Troy and Perfect Storm I enjoyed. Das Boot? Meh. It was okay, I think I am the only person on this forum who isn't nuts over it. It's a nice submarine movie, but as a general cinematic work...

07-26-07, 07:20 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,628 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If you guys want some extremely good movie-making by a German director, watch out for Tom Tykwer. Some of his movies are amongst the most beautiful I have ever seen. Maybe "Run, Lola, run" is his most well-lknown, but despite some technical originality in the plot, i think it is not amongst his best. These three, however, are very dear to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintersleepers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pri...nd_the_Warrior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_%282002_film%29 I agree with those Germans saying that Tykwer probably is the most artistic and orginal movie-maker germany has ever had since WWII. His movies are pieces of beauty and art, not action, but are not so tiresome dialogue-oriented and abstract-philosophic like many modern French or Eastern movies. If you look for bright lights and loiud sounds, look somewhere else. Despite the artistic handling of colours, cuts and camera perspectives, the highly original, surprising, unexpected and confusing and yet sense-making twists in his plots are noticable (see Wintersleeper). __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-26-07, 08:46 PM	#14
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The NeverEnding Story was awesome in my eyes. The Perfect Storm, out of respect for the family of the dead, should either have been created with fictional characters and a fictional event, or not at all. Das Boot was splendid, although not at all if you're after a Hollywood-style action movie. Outbreak was just OK, felt like all other Hollywood movies, except they're fighting a virus instead of terrorists or Russians. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.